🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is getting closer to beta. If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel!
Set by lizmat on 25 August 2021.
00:02 reportable6 left 00:14 eseyman left 00:16 eseyman joined 00:49 cognominal joined 00:50 cognominal_ left 00:57 linkable6 joined 01:03 reportable6 joined 02:04 committable6 left, greppable6 left, sourceable6 left, notable6 left, linkable6 left, quotable6 left, benchable6 left, reportable6 left, statisfiable6 left, nativecallable6 left, evalable6 left, shareable6 left, bisectable6 left, unicodable6 left, coverable6 left, squashable6 left, bloatable6 left, tellable6 left, releasable6 left 02:05 nativecallable6 joined 02:06 tellable6 joined, bloatable6 joined 02:07 bisectable6 joined, shareable6 joined, squashable6 joined 02:45 Xliff joined
Xliff There is a definite regression in precompilation. 02:46
I am now spending more time in precompilation than I am in compiling new code with the latest changes to rakudo. This really hurts projects with large dependency chains, as you are constantly precompiling compunits -THAT WERE ALREADY PRECOMPILED- seconds ago. 02:47
I have reported this once, and the onus was put upon me to prove the problem exists. I have no idea as to the best way to do that.
But this is the second week I have had to cancel timings due to this bug. All that I can ask is that someone PLEASE look into this. 02:48
It is seriously killing my drive to do things in Raku.
Something that used to take less than 5 seconds now takes over 3 minutes
03:05 greppable6 joined 03:06 reportable6 joined, statisfiable6 joined 03:07 squashable6 left, linkable6 joined, committable6 joined, quotable6 joined 03:09 melezhik left 04:05 sourceable6 joined 04:06 unicodable6 joined, evalable6 joined 04:07 coverable6 joined, notable6 joined 04:12 vrurg left, vrurg joined 05:06 benchable6 joined, releasable6 joined 05:09 squashable6 joined
samebchase Is it just me or are the code blocks looking weird in the Advent blog? raku-advent.blog/2020/12/04/day-4-...-grammars/ 05:35
japhb Xliff: Where's the original issue report?
samebchase Almost, unreadable 😐
japhb samebchase: I don't see unreadable, but I do see a mix between code blocks that look normal-ish, and code blocks that look like they're missing half the style info 05:37
Xliff japhB: It was reported here. Never made into an issue since it was not known how to best describe such a thing.
japhb Xliff: Hmmm. You said there was a regression. When did it last work quickly, and when did it first start being slow? 05:38
samebchase Ah, for me the font weight is so thin, I can barely read it. I'm on a recent FF btw 05:47
Xliff japhb: Last timings were made on the 10th. By the 17th, I could not get isolated precompiles of a single compunit done in most-efficient compile order. 05:49
elcaro I'm also on FF and agree the font weight could be heavier for me 05:53
also font size is inconsistent... small in some, larger in others. 05:54
Xliff japhb: Anecdotal evidence. I just precompiled a compunit. I then make changes in its DESCENDANT, try and compile it, and now I am precompiling the entire chain all over again.
It's like I never spent 327 seconds precompiling the first one.
At any rate, I literally just woke up for a bathroom break. I'm back to bed for another couple of hours.
japhb Ah, sleep well then. :-) 05:55
.tell Xliff If you can write down steps to recreate the timing difference, say between 2021.09 and 2021.10, that would probably be sufficient to start the issue. Next up would be tracing the module precomp for both versions by exporting the environment variable setting RAKUDO_MODULE_DEBUG=1 and rerunning. Then someone could compare what you're getting with what they are getting and start ruling out problems. 05:58
tellable6 japhb, I'll pass your message to Xliff
06:02 reportable6 left 06:03 reportable6 joined
Xliff japhb: That will involve p6-GtkPlus. Historically, people will slow down tracing issues when I involve any of the p6-GLib software unless it is pre-golfed. I have plenty of log acces, but NOTHING conducive to replication steps. 06:16
tellable6 hey Xliff, you have a message: gist.github.com/08952f482efc489b73...e659d95c83
Xliff Actually, if I do write it up, you all may just have to accept a compile log to see the issue. It's perfectly illustrated there. 06:17
*sigh* -- I think I have a reporting strategy. It will take time to test. 06:23
So much for sleep. :/
06:26 tejr left 06:27 tejr joined 07:08 Xliff_ left 07:15 Sgeo left 08:03 dakkar joined
Geth examples: terceranexus6++ created pull request #90:
malware analysis example		 08:33
examples: f3bff1fddd | Paula++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | categories/other/malware_analysis.raku
malware analysis example

This file, which is also explained in [here](dev.to/terceranexus6/raku-malware-analysis-jon) aims to mimic YARA malware detection standard using grammars. The whole idea is to use RAKU grammars for studying malware genes.		 08:43
examples: 3694c3b033 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | categories/other/malware_analysis.raku
Merge pull request #90 from terceranexus6/patch-1

malware analysis example
08:55 Oshawott joined 08:59 archenoth left 09:17 squashable6 left 09:33 ufobat joined 10:16 pony left
tbrowder samebchase: it does look inconsistent, but imho that's on wordpress so i'm not surprised--very fragile source-to-desired-html 10:22
10:23 pony joined 10:25 no-n joined 10:26 pony left
Geth raku.org: c3579d1bc8 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/community/index.html
Add new entry
 10:46
10:49 Altai-man joined 10:54 no-n is now known as pony
Geth raku.org: 9ce6e0140c | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/community/index.html
Update index.html
 11:01
raku.org: 3935a8be08 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/community/index.html
Update index.html
 11:04
tbrowder .tell melezhik see the Raku.org Community page for the new item (it will probably need some attention to get it as you desire) 11:06
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to melezhik
11:06 pony left 11:12 Altai-man left, Xliff left, lucs left, bartolin left, ecocode left, gcd left, Tirifto left, bdju left, tonyo left, DarthGandalf left, phogg left, mfiano left, avar left, KotH left, Geth left, TempIRCLogger left, Util left, JRaspass left, gfldex left, El_Che left 11:15 Altai-man joined, Xliff joined, lucs joined, ecocode joined, bartolin joined, gcd joined, Tirifto joined, bdju joined, tonyo joined, DarthGandalf joined, phogg joined, mfiano joined, avar joined, KotH joined, Geth joined, TempIRCLogger joined, Util joined, JRaspass joined, gfldex joined, El_Che joined 11:19 squashable6 joined 11:27 tejr left
ugexe Xliff: i know whats wrong, no need to come up with a repro 11:43
11:43 dogbert11 joined 11:44 [Coke]_ joined 11:45 kawaii__ joined 11:46 jmcgnh_ joined 11:48 Ulti_ joined, Manifest joined 11:49 dustinm`_ joined 11:51 xinming__ joined, Voldenet_ joined 11:52 peder_ joined, eseyman left, xinming_ left, frost left, jmcgnh left, jdv left, Manifest0 left, dustinm` left, dogbert17 left, [Coke] left, synthmeat left, ilogger2 left, Voldenet left, Ulti left, peder left, masak left, kawaii_ left, masak_ joined, Voldenet_ is now known as Voldenet, kawaii__ is now known as kawaii_, peder_ is now known as peder, jdv joined 11:54 jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh 11:57 eseyman joined 11:58 ilogger2 joined 11:59 synthmeat joined 12:02 reportable6 left 13:02 evalable6 left, linkable6 left 13:11 [Coke]_ is now known as [Coke] 13:30 merpaderp left 13:41 merpaderp joined 14:03 evalable6 joined 14:04 linkable6 joined, reportable6 joined 15:00 Sgeo joined
gfldex CIAvash: sadly add_dispatchee doesn't work with Block, pointy or not. 15:21
[Coke] boingboing.net/2021/10/27/macbook-...ow-is-this - can't remember where we talked about getting new macs once they had enough memory, but the new laptop design appears to have a bug. 15:40
16:00 abraxxa-home joined 16:06 ufobat_ joined 16:09 ufobat left 16:22 justsomeguy joined 16:32 abraxxa-home left 16:33 dakkar left 17:07 amenonsen left 17:08 amenonsen joined 17:10 patrickb joined 17:20 Altai-man left 17:53 justsomeguy left 17:57 patrickb left 18:02 reportable6 left 18:16 Tirifto left 18:21 Tirifto joined 18:28 melezhik joined
melezhik . 18:29
tellable6 2021-10-27T11:06:19Z #raku <tbrowder> melezhik see the Raku.org Community page for the new item (it will probably need some attention to get it as you desire)
melezhik @tbrowder sounds ok for me now. I am thinking about changing the slogan and principles slightly , but I guess you've grasped the main idea pretty much , thanks 18:32
I am thinking change more towards "friendly software reviews" instead of "independent software reviews", I'd like to make things less formal and more orinted towards developers rather then just software users ... 18:34
18:34 bumble-bot joined 18:39 bumble-bot left 18:42 bumble-bot joined 18:49 melezhik left, melezhik joined
melezhik tbrowder sounds ok for me now. I am thinking about changing the mybfio slogan and strategy slightly , but I guess you've grasped the main idea pretty much , thanks 18:51
maybe I need to make yet another reddit post and ask feedback? 18:52
18:57 squashable6 left 18:58 squashable6 joined, squashable6 left, squashable6 joined 19:06 reportable6 joined, bumble-bot left
CIAvash gfldex: thanks for giving it a go 19:14
19:20 kylese joined 19:49 dogbert11 left 19:50 dogbert11 joined 19:52 pony joined 20:03 Manifest is now known as Guest6924
melezhik I am having the error which I can't get my head around - gist.github.com/melezhik/ab621b7bc...f3196933e6 20:55
The iterator of this Seq is already in use/consumed by another Seq 20:56
not sure what might cause that
21:01 ufobat_ left
lizmat probably better asked on #cro 21:04
melezhik finally solved it by referencing as `<@foo.cache>` instead of just `<@foo>` 21:05
lizmat basically, don't put Seqs in your %params for Cro::WebApp::Template
melezhik looks like cro templates specific issue
lizmat++ I see
lizmat how do you set up @foo
?
melezhik by pushing to array `@foo` 21:08
and then foo is a part of higher level object (Hash)
lizmat if you're pushing, the array should be fully reified, and that shouldn't be an issue 21:10
are you then doing a .map or a .grep on that, and binding the result of that on the Hash ? 21:11
melezhik yes 21:18
21:20 kylese left
lizmat you might want to put .List after that 21:21
then you can just use @foo in your template
melezhik thanks 21:33
I am now reconsidering the whole idea ( that resulted in this issue ), but thanks ))) 21:34
21:34 tejr joined
lizmat it *could* be considered a Cro::WebApp bug, so maybe make an issue for it 21:34
afk&
22:16 dogbert11 left 22:19 dogbert11 joined 22:27 justsomeguy joined 22:47 justsomeguy left 23:47 evalable6 left, linkable6 left 23:49 linkable6 joined

Powered by Cro and the Raku® Programming Language.

Please report any issues / comments / feature requests as an issue on App::Raku::Log.

Thank you!