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pingu | sprintf is multi sub sprintf(Cool:D $format, *@args) but how do I view the function block of sprintf ? | 00:11 | |
Nemokosch | by consulting the source of Rakudo | 00:12 | |
rf | pingu: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/430d...r.pm6#L849 | 00:13 | |
pingu | cant I do it from my IDE | ||
rf | You might be able to from Comma | ||
pingu | cool im in comma | ||
rf | Ctrl + click the function | ||
or Command + click if on MAc | 00:14 | ||
pingu | 'my $line = sprintf($format, 1, 2, 3);' | 00:16 | |
rf | What does your format look like | 00:18 | |
m: sprintf('%d, %d, %d', 1, 2, 3).say; | 00:19 | ||
camelia | 1, 2, 3 | ||
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pingu | all it says is 'my $line = sprintf($format, 1, 2, 3);' | 00:26 | |
wait | |||
it says no usages found basically | |||
it wont let me copy and paste the message, its a tooltip | |||
rf | Yeah, then you'll just have to look up the sources in rakudo | 00:30 | |
pingu | holy crap thats a lot of code for one function (in the github) | 00:31 | |
C stdlib is like that too | 00:32 | ||
maybe I should just use sprintf rather than making my own function | |||
rf | That file is the file for all formatting | ||
pingu | I dont quite understand | 00:33 | |
rf | It's not really idiomatic Raku to use sprintf, I think its more common to just use interpolation | ||
m: my $a = 'world'; say "Hello $a"; | |||
camelia | Hello world | ||
Nemokosch | for what it's worth, Formatter is 6.e only and hence it's in a preview stage | 00:34 | |
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/2022...l.pm6#L536 | |||
here's an implementation in 6.c | |||
rf | Was unaware of that, thanks Nemo | ||
pingu | well originally I did this but it wouldnt work: pastebin.com/pPaA0HL5 | ||
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rf | Seems you were trying to do printf | 00:35 | |
pingu | so I sort of was using interpolation | ||
[Coke] | (irssi) I hate irc but also use irssi for raku related chat. | ||
pingu | I used to use termux and irssi | 00:36 | |
on android | |||
rf | Does this proto actually do anything: proto sub sprintf($, |) {*} | 00:38 | |
Never really saw the need for protos outside of iheritance | |||
Nemokosch | protos are for holding the multi dispatch together in a single entry point | 00:39 | |
rf | I see | ||
Nemokosch | this one is declaring some big dummy signature and {*} (which is a special symbol) says "just execute the winning candidate bruh" | ||
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rf | m: proto sub abc($a, *@bc) { say $a; samewith($a, |@bc); }; multi sub abc($a, *@bc) { say @bc.raku; }; abc(1,2,3,4,5); | 00:41 | |
Did I break it | |||
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rf | Oops | 00:42 | |
I thought samewith would hit the non proto | |||
pingu | ill see if I can do what I want without sprintf then | 01:00 | |
I assume sprintf is just merging the format string with the paramaters and then returning it as a string | 01:01 | ||
"%f %f %f", 1.1, 2.2, 3.3); return $RetStr; # "1.1 2.2 3.3" | 01:02 | ||
like that | |||
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pingu | help sub foo(*@s){@s = "%s"; return @s;} | 01:34 | |
my $str = "hello"; say(foo($str)); | |||
it prints [%s] | 01:35 | ||
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pingu | my function does more than printf /sprinf | 01:38 | |
sprintf* | |||
just not yet | |||
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tonyo | m: proto sub abc($a, *@bc) { * }; multi sub abc($a, *@bc) { $a.say; try samewith(|@bc); }; abc(1,2,3,4,5,6); | 05:46 | |
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nine | proto sub sprintf($, |) {*} actually does something: it declares that _all_ multi candidates will require at least one positional argument | 07:30 | |
Also in the setting (i.e. Rakudo core) protos do not get auto-generated, so you will find protos for all multis there. | |||
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tonyo | was pulling my hair out trying to find ARGS-TO-CAPTURE in setting a coupla days ago | 08:24 | |
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:(**@rest, *%rest) | m: printf '%(x)s, %(y)s', x => 2, y => 1; | 08:35 | |
Raku eval | Exit code: 1 Directive (x)s, %(y)s is not valid in sprintf format '%(x)s, %(y)s' in block <unit> at main.raku line 1 | ||
:(**@rest, *%rest) | bruh | 08:36 | |
m: printf '%s %s %s', 1, 2, [3, 4, 5] | 08:42 | ||
Raku eval | Exit code: 1 Your printf-style directives specify 3 arguments, but 5 arguments were supplied to format '%s %s %s'. in block <unit> at main.raku line 1 | ||
:(**@rest, *%rest) | * doing its flattening shenanigans 😔 | 08:43 | |
m: printf '%s %s %s', 1, 2, $[3, 4, 5] | |||
Raku eval | 1 2 3 4 5 | ||
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nine | m: use MONKEY-SEE-NO-EVAL; EVAL Q[my Int:D(Cool) $i = "1"].AST | 09:46 | |
camelia | Type check failed in assignment to $i; expected Int:D but got Str ("1") in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Nemokosch | Cool, the author of SpitSH showed up | 10:37 | |
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And one cannot miss that Alexey Melezhik shows up to grant a helping hand with CI and compilation every time something starts coming alive | 10:38 | ||
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[Coke] | didn't see this mentioned, but protos can also, if I recall correctly, have code that isn't just {*} if there is universal setup/teardown code. | 14:09 | |
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Nemokosch | yes yes | 14:19 | |
{*} itself isn't even a function body, it's a placeholder that can appear inside a function body as well | |||
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rf | Is there an example of universal teardown somewhere? That sounds useful. | 14:27 | |
moritz | END { } blocks are run at the end of a program, is that what you're looking for? | 14:36 | |
El_Che | "This is not the block you're looking for" vibe | 14:37 | |
rf | moritz: Sorry I meant for proto subs | 14:44 | |
nine | rf: yes the proto can in fact wrap the multi candidates. proto foo(|) { say "before the multi"; {*} say "after the multi" } | 14:49 | |
{*} must appear like that with no spaces or anything | |||
I actually learned this when implementing support for this in RakuAST ) | |||
rf | Very neat, thanks! | 14:50 | |
SO whatever will be translated to the block contents of the non proto? | |||
[Coke] | that's not strcitly a whatever, I think, though it looks like one. | 14:54 | |
rf | Hmm, so {*} != * | 14:56 | |
Nemokosch | ha, I know it! | 14:57 | |
[Coke] | m: dd *.^name | 15:00 | |
camelia | WhateverCode.new | ||
[Coke] | m: dd {*}.^name | 15:01 | |
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> {*} may only appear in proto at <tmp>:1 ------> dd {*}⏏.^name expecting any of: argument list horizontal whitespace term |
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pingu | difference between pop and splice? | 15:39 | |
they seem the same | |||
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[Coke] | pop is very specific, splice is very generic. | 15:40 | |
you can do any of the array manipulation work with splice depending on args passed | 15:41 | ||
pingu | does splice return the items that are removed | ||
[Coke] | m: my @a=<a b c>; dd @a.pop; | ||
camelia | "c" | ||
[Coke] | m: my @a=<a b c>; dd @a.splice(0,2,<d>); dd @a; | 15:42 | |
camelia | Array @a = ["a", "b"] Array @a = ["d", "c"] |
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pingu | cant you just do pop with a range | 15:43 | |
[Coke] | ^^ yes, it returns the removed ones. Docs cover this as well. | ||
no. pop doesn't take args. | |||
m: my @a = <a b c>; dd @a.tail(2); dd @a; | 15:44 | ||
camelia | ("b", "c").Seq Array @a = ["a", "b", "c"] |
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[Coke] | tail lets you specify a count, but doesn't do the pop. | ||
pingu | m: my@format = <a b c>; @format[0..1] = pop(); | 15:46 | |
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Calling pop() will never work with signature of the proto ($, *%) at <tmp>:1 ------> my@format = <a b c>; @format[0..1] = ⏏pop(); |
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pingu | m: my @format = <a b c>; my @b = splice(@a[0..1]); | 15:47 | |
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Variable '@a' is not declared. Perhaps you forgot a 'sub' if this was intended to be part of a signature? at <tmp>:1 ------> my @format = <a b c>; my @b = splice(⏏@a[0..1]); |
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cfa | it sounds like you want this: | ||
m: my @a = <a b c d e>; my @removed = @a.splice(2, 2); say @a; say @removed; | |||
camelia | [a b e] [c d] |
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pingu | ok yeah thx | ||
cfa | (remove 2 elements starting at index 2) | ||
pingu | is there a way to delete everything in the array in one go | 15:48 | |
maybe @a = (Empty); | 15:49 | ||
I still want 14 elements but they should all be set to Nil | |||
otherwise my loop () would be out of range | 15:50 | ||
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pingu | if two tokens get misaligned I made a condition to just wipe the array and do the loop again | 15:51 | |
Nemokosch | so do you mean the length should be preserved or not? | 15:52 | |
pingu | yeah | 15:54 | |
preserve the length | |||
hmm this dont work if (@format[0..1] == $spec[3..12] || @format[0..1] == $spec[13]) | |||
pastebin.com/uu6B1tAL | 15:55 | ||
Geth | ¦ doc: coke self-assigned Some targets in the Makefile do not work any more github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3035 | ||
pingu | im a bit mad that I had to do $1.0f too rather than just letting the presion be inherited by the data itself | 15:56 | |
$line will eventually contain tokens with decimal places | |||
so yeah padded 0 's on the left or right should all be treat as just being printed as an int | 15:59 | ||
because they dont change the value, non zeros however would change the value and therefore matter | |||
ah wait it should be line not spec but the problem will still exist | 16:03 | ||
i think it doesnt like the ranges | |||
being used in that way | |||
actually idk what im doing anymore | 16:05 | ||
because that is comparing the integers and they might be the same anyhow | |||
lets say I had 2 lines with slightly different data | 16:06 | ||
they would now therefore be treat as misalighned | |||
Geth | doc/main: da0dd763ae | (Will Coleda)++ | Makefile Remove any build related targets Part of #3035 |
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Nemokosch | me neither, good sir | 16:08 | |
pingu | I guess it isnt comparing 2 lines, its comparing a constant string called line to an array, as long as I dont compare $line1 and $line2 or @format1 with @format2 it should be fine | 16:09 | |
cfa | [Coke]: with those removed, github.com/Raku/doc#building-the-h...umentation is very out of date | 16:10 | |
presumably mention of building with `documentable start -a -v --highlight`, updating with `documentable update --highlight` is still worthwhile | |||
pingu | so I might as well just do: if(@Format ne $spec) { @format = (Empty); } | 16:11 | |
cfa | (or is the changeover to the new site imminent?) | ||
pingu | err @format ne $line | ||
Nemokosch | I don't know what imminent means | 16:12 | |
but if that's what you mean: the next time we'll be deploying, it will be the new site | |||
cfa | neat | ||
Nemokosch | and documentable basically enters the legacy state; not much needed for that because it's essentially broken already from what I know | ||
cfa | i guess i'll have to look into how to build the new doc site locally | 16:13 | |
Nemokosch | it's really simple tbh | ||
cfa | which repo is it? | ||
El_Che | (impending, Latin in- (towards) and minere (project)) | ||
Nemokosch | doc-website | ||
cfa | thanks | ||
El_Che | (there all my years of Latin finally useful after a few decades!) | 16:14 | |
Nemokosch | you clone the repo, make sure cro is installed in a way that suits you, and run bin_files/build_site | ||
El_Che: I learned Latin for 5 years myself but it wouldn't help for the life of me | |||
it has always been more a fun grammar exercize | |||
El_Che | Nemokosh: no regrets, here. It has been as useful as mathematics beyond what a calculator can do :) | 16:15 | |
cfa | attempting a build now, though cro might be an issue | ||
cfa understands why [Coke] was trying to build Archive::Libarchive::Raw now | 16:18 | ||
El_Che | Is there something raku related on FOSDEM this weekend? | 16:19 | |
Nemokosch | why, indeed? | 16:22 | |
Brian Duggan will talk about Termie, that's for sure | |||
El_Che | Nemokosch, I am considering dropping by :) | 16:23 | |
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melezhik | 0/ | 16:24 | |
tellable6 | 2023-02-02T16:25:49Z #raku <rf> melezhik Can you try compiling with a newer version of GCC preferably 12+ | ||
2023-02-02T19:48:29Z #raku <rf> melezhik I figured it out. Very small bug causing all of the failures I pushed a new version of Distribution::Builder::Cmake 0.0.6 which solves this. | |||
Nemokosch | well FOSDEM is cheap... | 16:25 | |
pingu | sorted pastebin.com/cnFHcJGu | ||
melezhik | I advertise SparrowCI on Reddit devops channel once a month - www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1...t/j72fmv4/ please upvote or comment if you want , thanks )) | ||
pingu | idk why it cant just do if (@format ne $line) { } but oh well | ||
melezhik | rf: good to see distribution builder cmake bug is fuxedc | 16:26 | |
fixed | |||
Nemokosch | ngl this is not only for the Raku conference but I think it really feels that we have very different senses for prices | ||
pingu | probably because they are not just single strings | ||
they are lists or sequences of strings | |||
in C theres less stuff like scalar array list sequence hash bag mix graph set etc | 16:28 | ||
you just use const array for a list and array for a set | |||
err array for an array | 16:29 | ||
if you want a set you have to make code that checks for duplicates, C supports the range operator now but before that you had to write code for that too | |||
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pingu | hashes would probably be enums or arrays + pointers | 16:30 | |
mixes would be structs or arrays with typecasts | |||
I assume a mix is a homogenous type array | 16:31 | ||
Nemokosch | > idk why it cant just do if (@format ne $line) { } but oh well what would that do in your opinion? | ||
pingu | I was thinking they were both just one string but I was wrong | 16:32 | |
it would probably default to @format[0] and $line[0] | |||
if you removed the [0]['s | |||
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pingu | so since its a list of strings I just did @format[$token] ne $line[$token] instead | 16:33 | |
btw is @_ special or is it just the same as making another reference | 16:34 | ||
or $_ | |||
i think thats for perl 5 backwards compat right | |||
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Nemokosch | $_ is "special", @_ not really | 16:37 | |
pingu | how so | ||
other than the fact that you dont need to declare it | |||
cfa | pingu: docs.raku.org/language/functions#i...-entry-@__ | 16:41 | |
Nemokosch | well $_ is set by many operations | 16:42 | |
and like @_, it can also stand for an auto-argument in a block/sub | |||
bartolin | Oh, that sadness when reading that Kaiepi has passed away. I'll miss him. | 16:47 | |
Nemokosch | also a prolific contributor to the JVM backend... | 16:51 | |
bartolin | yeah. I have a couple of old emails and open tabs with stuff that I wanted to discuss with him. Most related to BSD support or the JVM backend. He did many great things there (and elsewhere). | 16:57 | |
[Coke] | cfa - it's been out of date for some time, yes. Will update it. | 17:02 | |
cfa | thanks | 17:03 | |
pingu | so, how do I make the if into a function now pastebin.com/5KYLQm6w | 17:05 | |
I think I need @* and -> but dont know about how to use those yet | 17:06 | ||
Geth | doc/main: 87a0222246 | Coke++ | README.md Remove site build instructions |
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[Coke] | cfa: fixed. | ||
cfa: there is also #raku-docs if you want to join us there! | 17:09 | ||
cfa: we are moving towards getting raku/doc-website deployed in production, so any old build in the original raku/doc site is now obsolete. No one has run those commands to update the live site in months. | 17:10 | ||
Geth | doc/main: 8a4d2ab0e8 | Coke++ | README.md Remove reference to github.io site. The new raku/doc-website will be updated more frequently and has a different infrastructure setup. |
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doc/main: 8553df17eb | Coke++ | README.md Remove reference to jj's docker container. New container setup being done through raku/doc-website |
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cfa | [Coke]: joined :) | 17:17 | |
oh, didn't realise the site was so stale | |||
i'm very out of the loop | 17:18 | ||
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[Coke] | Current status: there's a new site; build and deployment steps will be different, we have the DevOps folks working on setting up CI for documentation updates; formal separate of web site (raku/doc-website) and docs (raku/doc) going forward; new site not live yet, but there's no point in keeping the old build info going in raku/doc | 17:21 | |
cfa | understood | 17:22 | |
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pingu | yay pastebin.com/A5NbZzsJ | 18:22 | |
I was thinking lists are immutable so I used an array instead | 18:24 | ||
but it didnt like that so I made @tokens $tokens now it works | |||
I wonder if it will catch if I make $token and $line different | 18:25 | ||
it does not hmm | 18:27 | ||
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[Coke] | seen on the internet, any reason not to add Complex.sign? | 19:07 | |
www.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments...x_numbers/ | |||
... (though if Complex.abs is defined as distance, how would sign ever be -1?) | 19:09 | ||
pingu | /j #c | 19:11 | |
cfa | hrm, i'm hitting 'raku is loading libcrypto in an unsafe way', i.e. github.com/jnthn/p6-io-socket-asyn.../issues/69 | 19:14 | |
[Coke] | (oh, because Complex.sign returns a Complex, not like Real.sign...) | 19:19 | |
cfa rebuilds OpenSSL, links to MacPorts' libraries | 19:22 | ||
now to retry bin_files/build-site | 19:23 | ||
oops, i linked to the wrong github issue but n/m | 19:24 | ||
pingu | ok this is what I need but as raku: if(value == (int)value) { fmt = PREFIX "%d" } else { fmt = PREFIX "%3.3f" }; snprintf(dest, SPACE, fmt, ..., value); | 19:25 | |
[Coke] tries a build adding Complex.sign to v6.e ... | 19:27 | ||
cfa | pingu: are you just trying to specify different format paramters depending on type? | 19:28 | |
pingu | sort of yes | ||
ldraw wouldnt mind if I read 1 but printed it to a new file as 1.0 | 19:29 | ||
but then if the tokens get misaligned , my function to check for the token misalignment is circumvented | |||
because hey you can just treat all tokens as either int or float which ldraw doesnt like | 19:30 | ||
tokens 0 and 1 must be int, 3 to 13 can be int or float | |||
pastebin.com/1aWtiS0Z | 19:34 | ||
[Coke] | if I add Complex to src/6.e, augment it, add a sign method, use v6.e.PREVIEW, it still complains about trying to convert to a Real (which the Cool helper does). am I missing something in the 6.e setup to make it available or just the existence of the file enough? | 19:35 | |
cfa | m: say +$_ ~~ Int ?? "%d" !! "%3.3f" for <-1.5 -1 0 1 1.5> | ||
camelia | %3.3f %d %d %d %3.3f |
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cfa | pingu: ^ | ||
so for example: | 19:36 | ||
m: my $x = '1.5'; $x.fmt(+$x ~~ Int ?? "%d" !! "%3.3f") | |||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
cfa | m: my $x = '1.5'; $x.fmt(+$x ~~ Int ?? "%d" !! "%3.3f").say | ||
camelia | 1.500 | ||
cfa | vs. | ||
[Coke] | ah, core_sources. | ||
cfa | m: my $x = '1'; $x.fmt(+$x ~~ Int ?? "%d" !! "%3.3f").say | ||
camelia | 1 | ||
cfa | there are other ways ofc | ||
pingu | thx ill try it | ||
cfa | here we just cast the string to a numeric; if we get an integer, use "%d", otherwise "%3.3f" | 19:37 | |
(if you pass in a non-numeric string this will fail) | |||
pingu | cool | 19:38 | |
cfa | you had SPACE in your example; you could just prepend that to your format string | 19:40 | |
pingu | but what about the string on the end | 19:41 | |
3024.dat | |||
[Coke] can't remember the last time he submitted code for rakudo and not some admin/docs stuff. | |||
pingu | and yes I'd like to put it inside of sprintf | ||
[Coke] | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/5181 | 19:42 | |
cfa | [Coke]: nice one | ||
pingu: you didn't mention that -- what're you trying to do? | |||
output 1.5.dat ? | |||
er, 1.500.dat | 19:43 | ||
pingu | I made everything in line a string before but i got an error saying I cant modify it | ||
i only got that error if I made 1 0 0 into 1.1 0 0 | |||
cfa | sorry, i'm not following | ||
pingu | 1.0 0 0 would work and print 1 0 0 weirdly | ||
in my pastebin | 19:44 | ||
and before that I made format an array but I got: positional passed instead of "str" or something | 19:45 | ||
cfa | i don't have time to look at the paste right now but it might help if you just restate what you're trying to achieve and exactly where you're getting stuck | 19:46 | |
i'll try and check back later | |||
pingu | so, I want to tokenize this file format: www.ldraw.org/article/218.html | ||
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Nemokosch | I hit pheix up and actually turned kind of optimistic regarding "port to Raku" kind of projects | 19:55 | |
pingu | my $x = '1.0'; $x.fmt(+$x ~~ Int ?? "%d" !! "%1.1f").say would either lose precision, or it would add too many trailing 0 's | ||
unless you got lucky and it matched the precision of the input | |||
by add too many zeros I mean just setting it to something big enough for everything like 8.8f | |||
Nemokosch | so... some of you may know the modules.raku.org site has been in a kind of abandoned state for a long time, partially because it's a Mojolicious web app and members don't really have interest in maintaining an old site written in Perl | 19:56 | |
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I don't want to give up on it, however I know virtually no Perl, so the rework plan is destined to always fall behind other, more approachable Raku tasks | 19:57 | ||
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my question is, are there people around with good enough Perl knowledge who would be willing to help out with this? | 19:59 | ||
pingu | isnt lizmat the per5 to raku expert | ||
perl* | |||
Nemokosch | either she is or she isn't, I don't know these days, but frankly lizmat is overburdened with actually more important tasks | ||
pingu | oh | 20:00 | |
yeah I would probably imagine so | |||
Nemokosch | while in current days a modern and approachable modules.raku.org feels more like a "nice to have" than a crippling necessity, we can get along with raku.land and only sometimes checking the module site as it is now | 20:01 | |
my particular hope would be, is that we have some momentum with web stuff again, we don't need to immediately reach out to Cro stuff, the choices are more granular | 20:02 | ||
jdv | wow it got cold out fast | ||
Nemokosch | pheix also made a router and worked on templating solutions, rf also made a remarkable intro with Humming-Bird | ||
jdv | [Coke]: how is it up there? | 20:03 | |
Nemokosch | perhaps I could also mention jjatria but it feels weird because of his involvement in raku.land itself | 20:04 | |
jdv | Nemokosch: i think your "push to map" may be the biggest release blocker but i havent confirmed it yet | ||
tellable6 | jdv, I'll pass your message to Nemokosch | ||
Nemokosch | could you please elaborate? | 20:05 | |
jdv | i cant at the moment. the ladt blin run had many failures pointing at that change. | ||
probably monday i can show you | |||
Nemokosch | it would be good to know what blin does | 20:07 | |
you know, that particular change is, for all intents and purposes, a regression fix | 20:08 | ||
the regression happens to be fairly old, early 2016 | |||
jdv | its on github:) | ||
Nemokosch | what do "failures" mean, though | ||
jdv | doesnt mean a bunch of ecosystem depends on something related... | ||
the tests failed | 20:09 | ||
Nemokosch | well, what tests? | ||
jdv | the respective dist | 20:10 | |
blin isnt too fancy. it just tries to smoke the eco. | |||
iirc, im out and about at the moment, the common snippet is something about "cant find push to map in map" | 20:12 | ||
Nemokosch | anyway, once there are published results, I'll definitely take a look | ||
jdv | thanks | ||
Nemokosch | "cant find push to map in map" - hmm, this one kind of makes you think. I wouldn't know by heart on what type this dispatching was introduced but iirc it was on Hash only | 20:13 | |
jdv | i know:) | 20:14 | |
Nemokosch | yep, hash only | ||
what is not clear is 1. why would it be needed for non-Hashes, including a plain Map 2. if it is needed for some legitimate reason, why did the tests and spectests all pass | 20:15 | ||
so yeah for that it would be probably good to see the dists in question | |||
it could always happen (unfortunately) that there was a blind spot in the tests | 20:16 | ||
jdv | thats why blin exists, basically;) | 20:17 | |
i normally curate the results but i xant til monday. i can share the raw results sooner though if desired. | 20:18 | ||
Nemokosch | back in the days when this corner case I was trying to fix was still working, Map and Hash weren't separated into two files, this behavior was all defined on Maps | ||
jdv | just want to avoid goose chases and such | 20:20 | |
Nemokosch | tbh I might take another look at the code right now, I can really imagine that a call tries to redispatch after some looser check, so for example making sure the argument is a Map, and then calling this method; even though it really should only be called on Hashes (or should be defined for Maps) | 20:21 | |
no guarantee I will find anything but it made me curious honestly | 20:22 | ||
like looking at something like (nqp::istype($x,Map) && nqp::not_i(nqp::iscont($x))), $x.PUSH_FROM_MAP($temp), | 20:25 | ||
suspicious that this won't be enough, not if PUSH_FROM_MAP is defined on a Hash | |||
jdv | ill post the raw results (take with grains of salt) in a bit | 20:26 | |
Nemokosch | tbh no need, I could reproduce the failure in a simple snippet | 20:28 | |
my %sad is Map = :foo; (%sad,).hash # No such method 'PUSH_FROM_MAP' for invocant of type 'Map' | |||
jdv | looks familiar | 20:29 | |
sorry and thanks | |||
Nemokosch | Probably everything breaks where a list of Maps is assigned, or forced into hash context... | 20:30 | |
you know what is the absolute irony? | 20:35 | ||
Map.STORE probably did the right thing to store "object hashes", only Hash.STORE didn't... | 20:36 | ||
jdv | complex things be surprising? | ||
Nemokosch | and now it turned backwards xD | 20:37 | |
Hash can store Hashes well, but not Maps... | |||
jdv | no rush btw. the next release attempt will be 2/17. | 20:43 | |
in case anyone missed it todays release is not happening:) | 20:44 | ||
Nemokosch | Still, I think for now it might be better to fix it rather simple (e.g add a candidate onto Map that just redirects to STORE_MAP there), and later on I'd rather make a bigger redesign so that the logic is not duplicated all around | 20:46 | |
then it can be more thoroughly planned, benchmarked, whatever goes | |||
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jdv | im but the lowly release janitor:) that sort of duscussion is probably better had with betters like liz or nine or vurg, etc... | 20:48 | |
Nemokosch | sorry, it's partially also just thinking out loud 😛 | ||
jdv | im just the messenger of sorts | ||
ha | 20:49 | ||
Nemokosch | - e.g I'd rather get rid of handwritten nqp:: typechecks all dumped into sole methods, in favor of dispatching to methods doing one thing at a time. I don't know the costs of a method dispatch but I'd hope it's not tremendously more than the nqp check, like, say, 3 nqp ops instead of one, idk | ||
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jdv | Nemokosh: here's the unofficial results - gist.github.com/jdv/a3442f84ac7942...8712e8989b | 21:31 | |
uh, i think that's truncated. lovely. | |||
wow, even the gh wiki chops it | 21:36 | ||
Nemokosch | Cro ever installed without test errors??? Wow | 21:37 | |
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jdv | jdv.devuyst.com/blin_failures_202302.md is the whole file. render it as you wish. | 21:45 | |
you can paste it into gh gist or whatever... | 21:46 | ||
i gotta run. later. | |||
NemokoschKiwi | take care | 21:49 | |
lizmat | pingu Nemokosch not going to spend time on modules.raku.org | 21:56 | |
would rather see people work on raku.land getting missing features implemented | |||
Nemokosch | well I'm not against raku.land whatsoever but to be honest, I wouldn't be happy if it actually drained the people who could help resurrecting modules.raku.org so there's that | 21:57 | |
it's just not the same thing, both by design and position within the Raku macroverse | 21:58 | ||
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pingu | omg this is so annoying | 21:59 | |
pastebin.com/BmXD2Uad | 22:00 | ||
Nemokosch | what's up this time, pingu? | ||
also, I expect the "resurrecting modules.raku.org" a one-time investment, this is an important point | 22:01 | ||
pingu | I just want to check if $toknum is 0 or 1 and that $tok is an integer | ||
Nemokosch | once it's a reasonable, accessible Raku project in its heart, it could have a position as any public Raku projects | ||
guifa | $foo %% 1 <-- integer check | ||
Nemokosch | or $foo.narrow ~~ Int | 22:02 | |
iirc | |||
frankly, part of the reason I'm hoping for people like pheix or rf to help out is because they have worked with/on non-Cro web projects in Raku, and this could give them a legitimate motive | 22:04 | ||
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much more than "here is a Cro app, implement XYZ feature in it" | 22:05 | ||
pingu | thx | 22:09 | |
is elsif () {} the same as else { if () {} } | 22:11 |