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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is getting closer to beta. If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 25 August 2021. |
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| tib | Hello, by any huge luck, does somebody would like and have material to pick a talk slot in the epehemeral miniconf (the talk need to be focused on Raku)? Just trying 😛 | 09:34 | |
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| El_Che | tib: put "weekly: " before your question | 10:17 | |
| and it will be sent today or tomorrow in the raku weekly | |||
| lizmat | well, perhaps | 10:29 | |
| :-) | |||
| El_Che | yeah, lizmat is known for being a canceller | 10:30 | |
| :) | |||
| lizmat | fwiw, you'd have to be colourblind to not see that it is about Perl | 10:31 | |
| sorry tib, but I don't feel it's appropriate to put in the Rakudo Weekly News | 10:32 | ||
| s:g/Perl/Perl and Raku/ is not enough to make an event inclusive | 10:33 | ||
| sourceable6 | lizmat, No idea, boss. Can you give me a Code object? Output: gist.github.com/a54d3200e3a5675e74...d58b30a8bb | ||
| lizmat | sorry sourceable6 :-) | 10:34 | |
| tib | yes... I understand completely lizmat and I agree | 10:38 | |
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| El_Che | oh shit, I opened a can of worms because I was too lazy to click on links | 11:01 | |
| sowwy lizmat and tib | |||
| sorry | 11:02 | ||
| lizmat | El_Che: no worries :-) | ||
| and no apology needed | |||
| at least to me :-) | |||
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| tib | yep no problem El_Che :) I forgive you if you give a raku talk | 11:11 | |
| El_Che | I could paradize a "Raku, Not Perl" in the line of GNU not Unix :) | 11:13 | |
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| Kaiepi | o/ | 13:08 | |
| which bot is the one that keeps links for the weekly? | |||
| SmokeMachine | notable6? | 13:10 | |
| (I'm not sure) | |||
| lizmat | just start with "weekly:" :-) | 13:11 | |
| Kaiepi | weekly: www.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments...tarecords/ | ||
| notable6 | Kaiepi, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| Kaiepi | thanks lizmat | ||
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| tbrowder | El_Che: a | 14:28 | |
| El_Che | b? | 14:29 | |
| tbrowder | *a mac update: after over 20 hrs of an apparently locked install/reboot, i did a hard restart (power off/on) my mini came up like a charm | 14:30 | |
| AND i can get to my website ok! | |||
| El_Che | yeah, macos updates are painful compared to linux | 14:31 | |
| (windows: hold my beer) | |||
| tbrowder | so, maybe my buds have murfled systems somehow, at least i know a mac will see it. now i have to see if i can install my own cert. | 14:32 | |
| but only after i try installing raku | 14:33 | ||
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| Anton Antonov | <@755062053282119803> What Mac OS was that with? Monterey? | 16:35 | |
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| algorev | Hello! | 18:22 | |
| I need some help understanding the hyperoperator | |||
| As far as i understand it's kinda like zipping two lists together by applying an operation to pairs of elements | 18:23 | ||
| tonyo | at least you have somewhat of a reasonable expectation that when osx upgrades most of your stuff will still work | ||
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| algorev | What i don't understand is: what is the meaning of the orientation of the guillemets? | 18:23 | |
| tonyo | linux update means i have no idea if my video driver is going to work | ||
| algorev | How is <<+>> different from <<+<< or even >>+<< | 18:24 | |
| Putting the guillemets whichever way does not seem to change anythingt | 18:26 | ||
| [Coke] | docs.raku.org/syntax/%3C%3C has some info | ||
| m: say (1,2,3) >>*>> 2 | |||
| camelia | (2 4 6) | ||
| [Coke] | m: say (1,2,3) <<*<< 2 | 18:27 | |
| camelia | Lists on either side of non-dwimmy hyperop of infix:<*> are not of the same length while recursing left: 3 elements, right: 1 elements in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| tbrowder | i don't know my mac os version, but i'll check... | 18:28 | |
| [Coke] | tbrowder: sw_vers | 18:29 | |
| tonyo | m: say (1,2,3) <<*>> 2 | ||
| camelia | (2 4 6) | ||
| algorev | What does it mean, then, if you do <<+>> or >>+<<, for example? | ||
| [Coke] | if the lists are the same size, I don't think it matters with that operator. If they're different, you get a warning, or it loops. | 18:31 | |
| algorev | I see. | ||
| [Coke] | m: say (1,2,3) <<+<< (4,5,6,7,8,9) | ||
| camelia | (5 7 9 8 10 12) | ||
| [Coke] | m: say (1,2,3) <<+>> (4,5,6,7,8,9) | ||
| camelia | (5 7 9 8 10 12) | ||
| [Coke] | m: say (1,2,3) >>+>> (4,5,6,7,8,9) | ||
| camelia | (5 7 9) | ||
| [Coke] | m: say (1,2,3) >>+<< (4,5,6,7,8,9) | 18:32 | |
| camelia | Lists on either side of non-dwimmy hyperop of infix:<+> are not of the same length while recursing left: 3 elements, right: 6 elements in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| algorev | Ohhhh makes sense | ||
| Ok thankssss | |||
| [Coke] | (ah, truncated is another option) | ||
| ... I agree this could use some better intro text on the docs site | 18:33 | ||
| algorev | I agree that the docs, while complete, are kinda intimidating | 18:34 | |
| I mean there's all you could ever need | |||
| But my brain kinda freezes when i see sentences llike "Assignment metaoperators can be hyped." while being utterly new to everything raku | 18:35 | ||
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| tonyo | the docs do kind of bleed a bunch of concepts into one another | 18:38 | |
| Geth | doc/finanalyst-patch-1: 8836a74484 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/List.pod6 Introduces suggested change |
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| doc: 57a2b22068 | (Richard Hainsworth)++ (committed by Juan Julián Merelo Guervós) | doc/Type/List.pod6 Remove link from List #3841 This is another false link that probably needs removing. There is no `routine_Str`or `method_Str` documented in `Any`. I could not find a single reference to `.Str` that I could replace the reference with. Removing the link does not seem to me to be important, but it probably should be an issue that `Str` is not documented in a single place. Strings and stringification are important enough to need a separate document. |
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| doc: 721b5f6518 | (JJ Merelo)++ (committed by Juan Julián Merelo Guervós) | doc/Type/List.pod6 Introduces suggested change |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/List | ||
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| tbrowder | my mac os is High Sierra, i'll see if i can get a ver num but it's in an update cycle now | 18:42 | |
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| tbrowder | my ver is 10.13.6, mac mini of 2011 vintage, so no more os upgrades from what i read | 19:29 | |
| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2021/11/15/2021-...nce-again/ | 19:31 | |
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| [Coke] | I thought my late 2014 mini was old! | 21:38 | |
| (I'm up to 11.6) | 21:40 | ||
| (I just checked, apparently I can upgrade to 12, though I have no need to) | 21:42 | ||
| perryprog | don't you want everything to break? | 21:47 | |
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