🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is getting closer to beta. If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel!
Set by lizmat on 25 August 2021.
00:00 frost joined 00:05 reportable6 left 00:07 reportable6 joined 00:17 johnny left
SmokeMachine johnny, drakonis: you can express the version of your dependencies on your META6.json, but to have that to the whole tree of dependencies, I think the only way is to only depend on dependencies that express the wanted version of their dependencies… 00:24
01:17 linkable6 left, evalable6 left 01:19 evalable6 joined 01:20 linkable6 joined 01:23 dcx left 01:26 dcx joined 01:41 guifa joined 01:43 perlmaros left 02:11 jgaz joined, jgaz left 02:20 Jookia joined
Jookia o/ 02:20
03:20 evalable6 left, linkable6 left, linkable6 joined 03:21 frost left 03:22 evalable6 joined
tonyo No registered operation handler for 'setmethcache' 03:57
04:22 evalable6 left, linkable6 left 04:23 evalable6 joined, linkable6 joined 05:18 Geth left 05:36 euandreh left 05:37 euandreh joined 06:05 reportable6 left 06:06 reportable6 joined 06:28 abraxxa-home joined 06:29 mexen joined 07:28 lichtkind_ joined 07:54 frost joined 08:04 Sgeo left
nine tonyo: setmethcache went away with new-disp 08:20
At least on MoarVM. I think it still exists on JVM
08:31 _________ left 08:46 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 08:57 p6steve joined 08:59 p6steve_ joined 09:00 _________ joined 09:04 sena_kun left 09:06 _________ left, lichtkind_ left 09:07 _________ joined, sena_kun joined 09:17 p6steve_ left 09:18 p6steve left 09:52 Geth joined 10:00 Geth left, Geth joined 10:02 RakuIRCLogger joined 10:50 Altai-man joined 10:53 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 10:58 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 11:02 wingfold joined 11:06 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined, wingfold left 11:08 wingfold joined 11:41 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 11:42 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 12:05 reportable6 left 12:07 reportable6 joined 12:17 frost left 12:57 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 13:10 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 13:14 frost joined 13:23 p6steve_ left, p6steve left, _________ left 13:25 p6steve_ joined, p6steve joined 13:46 frost left
Geth doc: a735bd93b0 | Coke++ | doc/Language/modules.pod6
Remove some extra commas, slight cleanup.
13:49
linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/language/modules
Geth doc: 06758c3812 | Coke++ | xt/check-signatures.t
Improve error message when testing a subset of files
13:54
14:01 Sgeo joined 14:06 razetime joined 14:10 lichtkind joined 14:27 abraxxa-home left 14:30 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 14:32 razetime left 14:34 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 14:57 deadmarshal joined 14:58 deadmarshal left
Geth doc/CATCH-TWEAKS: b2eaaafc94 | Coke++ | doc/Language/exceptions.pod6
typo
15:25
doc/CATCH-TWEAKS: 18a23ddd5f | Coke++ | doc/Language/exceptions.pod6
Pass example compilation test

declare some items in preamble. Cheat on the method invocation. use =begin on nearby block for consistent source formatting
15:35 razetime joined 15:37 p6steve_ left, p6steve left 15:41 _________ joined, hhcryfqnut joined 15:45 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 15:49 p6steve left 15:50 p6steve_ left 16:08 p6steve_ joined, p6steve joined
tonyo trying to build on the js backend 16:26
didn't mean to paste that in here, i get Method 'stringified' not found for invocant of class 'CompUnit::DependencySpecification' on the JVM
lizmat is that still on master? 16:33
16:46 hhcryfqnut left 17:08 p6steve left, p6steve_ left
tonyo yea 17:12
both of those errors happen on master
17:14 razetime left 17:15 mexen left 17:17 Altai-man left 17:19 Jookia left 17:24 p6steve joined, p6steve_ joined 17:28 Xliff left
lizmat meh 17:43
18:05 reportable6 left 18:07 reportable6 joined 18:34 hhcryfqnut joined 18:55 n1to joined 18:56 wingfold left 18:59 sena_kun left 19:02 hhcryfqnut left 19:08 sena_kun joined
Geth doc/CATCH-tweaks: b2eaaafc94 | Coke++ | doc/Language/exceptions.pod6
typo
19:37
doc/CATCH-tweaks: 18a23ddd5f | Coke++ | doc/Language/exceptions.pod6
Pass example compilation test

declare some items in preamble. Cheat on the method invocation. use =begin on nearby block for consistent source formatting
[Coke] (too easy to screw up branch name by case only) 19:39
lizmat :-) [Coke]++ 19:40
19:58 grizzlysmit joined
grizzlysmit hello fellow Raku enthusiasts quiet in here 20:02
drakonis hullo 20:04
20:04 spacekookie left
drakonis apparently, europe has the lion's hare of the base here 20:04
grizzlysmit Ok I am from Australia I guess we take turns sleep wise huh 20:05
20:06 spacekookie joined
japhb grizzlysmit: There are a few of us from the Americas, and a few from Asia, but yeah, the largest single group of active people on the channel is in Europe. 20:10
grizzlysmit OK that explain the lack of activity 20:13
drakonis that can always improve in time as raku gets known 20:14
MasterDuke i wonder if the discord channel has a different geographic distribution of users 20:15
grizzlysmit yes, it's an awesome language it deserves more support
Ok discord I try that later 20:16
drakonis the most active channel there is the beginners channel anyways 20:17
and its bridged to irc
as well as the main raku channel for the folks that dont come over on irc very often 20:18
grizzlysmit OK I'm not really a beginner been using Raku since it was perl6 and early in that time 20:19
20:24 Tirifto left
drakonis raku needs a killer app 20:25
also some assembler maybe?
so it doesnt need to screw around with ffi for compiling weird code 20:26
[Coke] NativeCall seems superior to assembler. 20:27
drakonis i've seen judicious use of it in D for a numpy replacement that doesnt require specific code for multidimensional arrays
[Coke] (though I haven't had to deal with assembler in ... 2 decades?)
drakonis oh, do tell though 20:28
forum.dlang.org/post/yihbegggrvrqc....dlang.org
its for the number crunching stuff i'd say 20:29
perhaps i might be misunderstanding that post? 20:31
i'm sure it'd be possible to do it in raku anyways 20:32
not sure how performant it can be though 20:33
20:36 grizzlysmit left 20:37 Tirifto joined 20:38 Tirifto left
drakonis [Coke]: how does nativecall replace assembler? 20:39
20:41 Tirifto joined
drakonis i also meant an inline assembler 20:42
for those hand rolled ops and such
surprisingly enough, no asm calls on mir 20:43
so i stand corrected. 20:44
20:50 grizzlysmit joined 20:51 grizzlysmit left 20:59 wingfold joined 21:01 melezhik joined, melezhik left 21:14 grizzlysmit joined
grizzlysmit back finally got pidgin working for this, helps to have the right port 21:16
21:26 lichtkind_ joined 21:29 lichtkind left
drakonis hm, so mir actually uses inline assembly, oh well. 21:41
[Coke] sorry, not a direct replacement for assembly, just gets you to C. the rakudo jit itself is using assembly, though. It's just not exposed as a user-space feature. 21:43
moon-child a closer analogue to asm would seem to be nqp 21:51
it is not there yet, but I think it has the potential to be good for tight numerics 21:52
22:16 wingfold left 22:21 n1to left 22:38 nebuchadnezzar left 23:10 Xliff joined
Xliff Hi. Can someone tell me why I am getting this error on code that used to work? 23:10
"Cannot iterate object with P6opaque representation (ContainerDescriptor)"
[Coke] anything change on your end? did it work in an older version of rakudo and not this one? 23:11
Are you using a release version or rakudo HEAD?
(afk) 23:13
23:17 lichtkind_ left, Manifest0 left
Xliff [Coke] - Unless mentioned, I'm always on a HEAD no longer than a week old. 23:30
And I figured out a workaround, so thanks.
23:33 melezhik joined
melezhik . 23:33
23:39 melezhik left 23:43 melezhik joined
melezhik @SmokeMachine I am going to add MySQL / PostgreSQL support to SparkyCI soon, will be you interested to try it out for Red testing ? 23:44
SmokeMachine melezhik: that would be great! :) 23:45
melezhik Here is an example of MySQL service - twitter.com/melezhik2/status/15125...41899?s=21
It's not complete , however one can see the idea 23:46
Red does not support MySQL yet, correct ?
SmokeMachine not yes... but I'm working on it... github.com/FCO/Red-Driver-MySQL 23:48
melezhik Anyway the same postgresql could be bootstrapped to SparkyCI
23:48 melezhik left 23:54 melezhik joined, melezhik left 23:56 melezhik joined 23:57 melezhik left, melezhik joined