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disbot10 <.landyacht.> testing bridge 01:33
<.landyacht.> testing bridge again 01:35
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Voldenet it doesn't work, I don't hear you ;p 02:26
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whistlingzephyr bridge test 03:33
alright, works
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librasteve m: say 0.1+0.2 14:22
evalable6 0.3
Raku eval 0.3
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librasteve weekly: working? 14:23
notable6 librasteve, Noted! (weekly)
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tellable6 2025-10-13T17:56:00Z #raku <librasteve_> notable6: weekly 14:23
2025-10-13T17:57:17Z #raku-dev <librasteve_> notable6: weekly
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librasteve_ checks bridge 14:23
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librasteve_ Hmm 14:37
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librasteve @.landyacht. , @whistlingzephyr … thanks for the changes! looking good 14:39
whistlingzephyr wait 14:40
do we not receive messages from the other side of the bridge? 14:41
librasteve only niggle is that I can’t get the bridge to work to/from the Discord raku channel
cro and raku-beginner are fine
raku not working either way afaict
whistlingzephyr m: say 1
evalable6 1
Raku eval 1
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whistlingzephyr I can see Discord messages from #raku being sent to IRC at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html 14:43
but not IRC messages coming here... checking
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librasteve standing by 14:44
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whistlingzephyr m: say 1 14:45
evalable6 1
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whistlingzephyr (I disabled Raku eval here, we're supposed to have the irc bot respond) 14:45
simon_sibl I would really appreciate if you could give me some more details, I’m not completely sure to see the condition for it to happen
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whistlingzephyr m: say 1 14:48
evalable6 1
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whistlingzephyr m: say 2 14:51
evalable6 2
Raku eval 2
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whistlingzephyr I want the IRC bot to respond, not this one 14:51
simon_sibl Oh
whistlingzephyr m: say 3 14:52
evalable6 3
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librasteve 4 14:52
whistlingzephyr could someone send a text from the IRC side?
librasteve_ irc text
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librasteve tried, no luck 14:52
whistlingzephyr still didn't work ._.
m: say 3 14:55
evalable6 3
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whistlingzephyr @librasteve is evalable6 not enabled in #raku-beginner ? 14:57
m: say 4 15:01
evalable6 4
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whistlingzephyr oh, I found the issue, there's a hidden channel called raku. could you rename it? @.landyacht. 15:05
.landyacht. Ahh sure thing 15:10
Okay that one’s raku-retired now 15:11
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librasteve =b 15:14
librasteve_ check from irc
librasteve and back
weekly: ok
notable6 librasteve, Noted! (weekly)
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librasteve °/ 15:15
thanks!
can someone (ideally a non discord user) maybe check the Discord on raku.org/nav/1/community 15:17
click invite
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arkiuat thanks Voldenet, that also helps me understand what jubilatious was saying 15:45
So it looks as if the words "that are" got dropped from before "the ones", so I think it's trying to say something like "Use this method to recast single items as single-item-list Iterators for those contexts that require it. Classes that actually iterate usually provide their own implementations of this method." 16:38
(referring back to the text of docs.raku.org/type/Any#method_iterator) 16:39
I'll try to rephrase that more succinctly before suggesting an edit
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ds7832 Iterables one can put into an item context by appending .item or prepending $ (e.g. when passing them as arguments to a flattening slurpy parameter, or in for loops - docs.raku.org/type/List#Items,_fla...d_sigils). Is there anything similar for hashes? (I'm currently working on this section of the docs: docs.raku.org/language/signatures#...arameters) 17:33
lizmat hashes are also interables ? so why would that be different ? 17:36
ds7832 Yeah, I'm not too sure if the question makes sense. The starting point was that for positional arguments passed to slurpy parameters, they can be treated in different ways – no flattening (**@_), and automatic flattening (*@_). As far as I see, for slurpy named parameters, there is no such distinction, is that correct? 17:46
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lizmat indeed, no distinction 17:47
hmmm
you can specify **%foo, and in RakuAST it will actually codegen an unflattened slurpy 17:48
m: sub a(**%a) { dd %a }; a foo => { bar => 42 } # weird 17:50
camelia Too few positionals passed; expected 1 argument but got 0
in sub a at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: say Q|sub a(**%a) { dd %a }; a foo => { bar => 42 }|.AST.EVAL
camelia Parameter ** quantifier not applicable to sigil '%'
in any IMPL-TRANSFORM-PARAM-QAST at src/Raku/ast/signature.rakumod line 2341
in any IMPL-TO-QAST at src/Raku/ast/signature.rakumod line 1305
in any IMPL-QAST-BINDINGS at src/Raku/ast/sign…
lizmat at least in RakuAST it will give you a compilation error 17:51
so don't do that with hashes, I'd say :-)
ds7832 yeah, I think I'll stay clear of that :-) 17:52
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arkiuat the situation of Any.value is similar to that of Any.iterator; both are kind of stubs of methods usually "intended" for more specific structured classes than Any 18:50
Any.values, I mean 18:51
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[Coke] 2025.10 release is done 19:19
ping me with any issues, I'll check in again in a bit.
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