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moon-child I'm getting an error of 'Failed to open file /d/code/FancyBot1/logfile: No such file or directory' 05:21
trying to .slurp or .IO the file of that name
which is odd, because that file definitely exists
ahh, apparently it was just vim being stupid 05:24
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moon-child is there any way to make IRC::Client connect with ssl? Apparently I need to pass a ca-cert param; what do I put in there? 06:03
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stoned75 commit: releases my $blob = blob8.new(3,6, 254); say $blob; 06:18
committable6 stoned75, gist.github.com/123996d76edaecbbca...d1f96d94cc 06:19
stoned75 commit: releases my $b = Blob[int32].new( 3, -3, 0xff32, -44); say $b; 06:21
committable6 stoned75, gist.github.com/69a81bf130d7d523dc...beca18d1e5 06:22
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Geth doc/blob-8163264: 2f07f488fc | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Document classes blob8, blob16, blob32 and blob64
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Geth doc: stoned++ created pull request #3263:
Document classes blob8, blob16, blob32 and blob64		 07:23
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Geth doc: 00cc4b2e78 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Buf.pod6
consistent whitespace use in examples
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Buf
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Geth doc: 2f07f488fc | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Document classes blob8, blob16, blob32 and blob64
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doc: d67841d304 | (Juan JuliĆ”n Merelo GuervĆ³s)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Merge pull request #3263 from Raku/blob-8163264

Document classes blob8, blob16, blob32 and blob64
linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Blob
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Geth doc/blob-fix: 482e2d0f2e | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Use blob32, not buf32, in Blob's document
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doc: stoned++ created pull request #3264:
Use blob32, not buf32, in Blob's document		 10:21
doc: 482e2d0f2e | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Use blob32, not buf32, in Blob's document
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doc: f2f9b59b35 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Blob.pod6
Merge pull request #3264 from Raku/blob-fix

Use blob32, not buf32, in Blob's document
linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Blob
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moritz twitter.com/liztormato/status/1238...6213952517 :-((( 10:34
lizmat yes, indeed a great loss :-( 10:35
MasterDuke yes, he was one of the first people i met irl from the perl+raku community 10:36
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El_Che moon-child: I suppose the CA of the cert of the irc server 10:49
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ParsonsNose Hey. I'm trying to use Cro::HTTP::Client, and I'm having some issues - wondered if anyone here could help... 10:53
so, it's installed (`zef list --installed | grep -i cro::http` shows `Cro::HTTP:ver<0.8.3>`) but `perl6 -e "put Cro::HTTP::Client.get('example.com')"` returns `Could not find symbol '&Client' in 'HTTP'` -- any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 10:54
El_Che you need to use it first
use Cro...
(from tablet typing not easy) 10:55
ParsonsNose `use Cro;` gives the same error, and `use Cro::HTTP::Client` hangs and then dies...
`Abort trap: 6` 10:56
IDK what that means...
Geth doc/buf-list-return-type: b36120ee41 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Buf.pod6
Buf.list() now returns a List
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lizmat ParsonsNose: which version of Raku are you using > 10:58
?
El_Che use Cro::HTTP::Client; 10:59
ParsonsNose > This is Rakudo version 2020.02.1 built on MoarVM version 2020.02.1
El_Che that should be enough
looking at the docs
Geth doc: stoned++ created pull request #3265:
Buf.list() now returns a List
El_Che with the ;
ParsonsNose Yeah, I tried that first before coming on here, but it just dies with an abort tap: 6
s/tap/trap 11:00
lizmat ParsonsNose: could you run your program with "--ll-exception" and put the result in a gist? 11:02
ParsonsNose Doesn't need a gist: ```$ perl6 --ll-exception t.p6Abort trap: 6``` -- is there a higher level of verbosity I could try? 11:09
.. that pasted badly, it's two lines 11:10
lizmat hmmm... that's not a lot to go on... 11:11
what OS are you running on ?
also: maybe the #cro channel would be a place to mention this on also 11:12
ParsonsNose macos. I'll check in there, thanks 11:13
synthmeat lizmat: unrelated, any other raku-related channels of interest?
lizmat is on MacOS, if you could paste your code, I could run it to see if I can reproduce
synthmeat is also on macos, but cannot reproduce 11:14
lizmat synthmeat: #raku-dev #moarvm that's basically it
synthmeat ty ^_^ 11:15
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ParsonsNose tnx all 11:32
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antoniogamiz o/ 12:08
what is the right way to compare paths in Raku?
I mean, the comparation should be OS independent 12:09
comparison* 12:10
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lizmat "foo".IO eqv "bar".IO I would guess ? 12:19
sena_kun m: say 'foo/bar'.IO eqv 'foo\bar'.IO 12:20
camelia False
antoniogamiz m: "a\\b" eqv "a/b"
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "eqv" in expression "\"a\\\\b\" eqv \"a/b\"" in sink context (line 1)
antoniogamiz m: say 'a\\b' eqv 'a/b' 12:21
camelia False
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antoniogamiz it does not seem to work :/ 12:21
lizmat antoniogamiz: you are comparing strings there, not IO::Path's 12:22
antoniogamiz m: say 'a\b'.IO eqv 'a/b'.IO
camelia False
lizmat m: say 'a\\b'.IO eq 'a/b'.IO
camelia False
lizmat hmmm.... 12:23
I guess that warrants an issue :-(
antoniogamiz I suppose so :/
ci.appveyor.com/project/JJ/pod-to-...s/28050389
it looks like that paths built from a string in Unix format in a windows environment are not changed to windows path format 12:25
where should i open that issue? 12:26
lizmat github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/new I guess :-) 12:27
antoniogamiz done, thanks :D 12:36
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leont How is eqv defined anyway? How would one override it? 12:45
Just define a multi? 12:46
lizmat yup
multi infix:<eqv>(IO::Path:D \a, IO::Path:D \b) { ... }
leont I would guess defaulting to === ? 12:53
(the nqp isn't entirely obvious) 12:54
lizmat m: dd "foobar".IO.WHICH 12:56
camelia ObjAt.new("IO::Path|63014320")
lizmat apparently IO::Path is not a value type, so === is not really an option
although I don't see a reason why it couldn't / shouldn't be 12:57
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thundergnat m: say IO::Spec::Win32.canonpath(ļ½¢C:/home/bernie/.ļ½£, :parent) eqv IO::Spec::Win32.canonpath(ļ½¢C:\temp\Win32/../../home/bernieļ½£, :parent) # takes some convolutions but doable 13:02
camelia True
thundergnat antoniogamiz: ^^^ 13:03
tellable6 thundergnat, I'll pass your message to antoniogamiz
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thundergnat Very sad news about DrForr 13:03
As of today, (yesterday actually,) all 1181 Perl 6 tasks have been renamed to Raku. 13:05
on rosettacode.
rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Raku 13:06
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rypervenche Woo! 13:15
Geth doc: b36120ee41 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Buf.pod6
Buf.list() now returns a List
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doc: 330d0cc083 | stoned++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Buf.pod6
Merge pull request #3265 from Raku/buf-list-return-type

Buf.list() now returns a List
linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Buf
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Doc_Holliwood beware of macOS. macOS is like the chaos in W40K 13:57
too much exposure and it starts to corrupt you
trust me, i work for Apple 13:58
El_Che lol 14:02
lizmat has been corrupted since the Apple || 14:08
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antoniogamiz o/ 14:29
tellable6 2020-03-15T13:03:12Z #raku <thundergnat> antoniogamiz: ^^^
antoniogamiz what was the operator to combine lists? I mean, given (1,2),(3,4) obtain (1,3),(2,4)? 14:30
thundergnat: I will try that! thanks 14:31
thundergnat antoniogamiz: I added a more complete solution on the issue page #3551
antoniogamiz yeah i was reading it! I will try it in a few minutes 14:32
tobs m: dd [Z] (1,2),(3,4) # antoniogamiz did you mean this? 14:35
camelia ((1, 3), (2, 4)).Seq
antoniogamiz aaaaah Z
thanks tobs
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rypervenche Oof, I think I should stop trying to fix Lingua::Number. I think it's beyond my current knowledge. :/ 14:47
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Geth doc/buf-blob-list-return-type: 08b4a058ca | (Stoned Elipot)++ | 2 files
clarify Buf.list() and Blob.list() return value's type

As discussed in #3266		 14:59
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Geth doc: stoned++ created pull request #3267:
clarify Buf.list() and Blob.list() return value's type		 15:01
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uzl[m] Just learned about DrForr. Quite shocking and ultimately sad to hear about this. RIP DrForr. 15:07
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rindolf uzl[m]: yes 15:37
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japhb Anyone have any luck with non-trivial asynchrony and GTK::Simple? I can't seem to do much of anything without invoking various crashes, including "received an X Window System error", whose extended error message led me to GDK_SYNCHRONIZE and thus "[xcb] Unknown request in queue while dequeuing", whose extended error message led me to try using Supply.schedule-on(GTK::Simple::Scheduler) as per 17:01
www.jnthn.net/papers/2014-nlpw-reactive.pdf and www.jnthn.net/papers/2014-yapceu-async.pdf, which resulted in "MoarVM panic: Internal error: Unwound entire stack and missed handler". GAAAAAHHHHH ...
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moritz I think somebody else recently had that error, when trying to return from a block that was executed asynchronously, and the outer routine had already returned 17:22
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jdv79 jeff was cool. i'll miss him:( 17:29
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oneeggeach p6: say (:x:y:!z),(:x,:y,:!z); 17:56
camelia (x => True y => True z => False)(x => True y => True z => False)
oneeggeach oh interesting: on my machine (Rakudo Star 2019.03.01), the output is '(x => True y => 1 z => 0)(x => True y => True z => False)' 17:57
was hoping someone could explain why I was getting y => 1 and z => 0 instead of True/False
but perhaps it's been changed in a newer version of Rakudo 17:58
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japhb moritz: Well, all of this is happening in the background while the GTK app continues to sit in its main loop; my test code looks like: sub MAIN() { ... create and configure $gtk-app ...; Supply.interval(5).skip(1).schedule-on(GTK::Simple::Scheduler).act: { ... update an interface element ... }; $gtk-app.run } 18:16
So it's not clear what "outer" routine has already returned there.
moritz japhb: not clear to me either; maybe it's a different bug, or maybe it's in GTK::Simple 18:31
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irced tumbles in through a vortex followed by a drove of pigs. 19:32
huh, Raku? what world is this?
irced shrugs.
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chloekek TIL vortices lead to Raku 19:43
japhb We do practice the whirlpool method of development, so it fits. 19:46
chloekek We also have the @ sigil
But these analogies will soon be spiraling out of control. 19:47
jjatria Hi~ I've been playing around with Raku bindings for Termbox (gitlab.com/jjatria/raku-termbox), and I think it's getting close to being releasable. Since this is my very first Raku library, any comments would be more than welcome :D 19:53
japhb jjatria: See also github.com/ab5tract/Terminal-Print/ 19:58
jjatria Ooh, very nice
japhb jjatria: See the examples/ directory for lots of ... well, examples. :-) 19:59
jjatria japhb: Some of these examples are sweet. `attacks.p6` is very fancy 20:04
MasterDuke oneeggeach: gist.github.com/Whateverable/6d76d...2d318f1ef, looks like it's been fixed since 2019.03 20:08
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japhb jjatria: Those were used when designing the rpg-ui example, and of course for performance tuning the library. :-) 20:19
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guifa rypervenche: what are you needing from Lingua::Number ? 21:51
Itā€™s likely I have or will soon have whatever you need in Intl::Number 21:52
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rypervenche guifa: Looking to be able to convert to ordinal number in zh_Hant (zh-TW) locale. It's not a huge deal, I can write something to do it, but I thought it could be useful for other programs. 22:10
guifa Yeah, that will be possible with Intl::Number 22:19
unfortunately due to $day-job Iā€™ve not been able to work on Intl:: stuff in a bit, and I had to drop work amidst a fairly substantial reorganization, but take a look at it. I donā€™t think I finished up the ordinal stuff, but I know I had most number formatting (and even made a localized number token for use in regexen) 22:20
If youā€™re needing it spelled out, like in English ā€œfirstā€ ā€œsecondā€ ā€œthirdā€ etc, that will require me doing the RBNF (rule based number formatting) 22:21
TreyHarris I was on the cruise with DrForr -- I never made the connection because of his online handle and he either didn't hear my last name or didn't make the connection either. I wish I'd known
guifa Which I know I havenā€™t done yet
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rypervenche Hmmm, Intl::CLDR says it *might* work, but has a bug. Let's see if that works. I didn't even think that there might be another module that I could use >< 22:24
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synthmeat (having comprehensive Intl in ecosystem would be amazing) 22:25
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rypervenche Yeah, doesn't work. I'll write a little something for now since I only need it for 8 numbers. 22:37
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guifa synthmeat: thatā€™s the goal. I ended up putting too much in the Intl::CLDR module, and right now Iā€™ve been working to disentangle stuff from it so that Intl::CLDR is nothing more than a repository 22:45
and then Intl::Number or Intl::Date(Time), etc, will be where the functionality resides 22:46
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guifa rypervenche: that note about ordinal taht should be working is for the ::Plural, not ::Number. In English there are two for cardinal numbers (1 = one, everything else = other), but for cardinal there are more (1 = one, 2 = two, 3 = few, *11, *12, *13 and everything else = other). 22:53
Itā€™s a module that most people probably wonā€™t ever need to interface with, but if youā€™re writing a localization framework (I am ha) then itā€™s necessary because you need to know when to use, e.g., ā€œappleā€ (one) or ā€œapplesā€ (other), or ā€œstā€ (one), ā€œndā€ (two) ā€œrdā€ (few) or ā€œthā€ (other) 22:54
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SmokeMachine has anyone ever gotten this error while trying to use DB::MySQL? `Plugin caching_sha2_password could not be loaded: Error loading shared library lib/mariadb/plugin/caching_sha2_password.so: No such file or directory` 23:10
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SmokeMachine I can connect wit mysql client but not with DB::MySQL... 23:11
www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UJyhEJsS/
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rypervenche guifa: Yeah, the README for Intl::CLDR::Plural says that it's got a but and ordinal numbers don't work. 23:23
TreyHarris "Ordinal should be working but there's a bug somewhere" 23:32
guifa knows ā€¦ he wrote it :-) 23:38
My point is itā€™s not for generating ordinal numbers, but defining the plural category of the associated ordinal number
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guifa for Chinese, the result of plural-count($number, :type<ordinal>) should be ā€˜otherā€™ for every single number 23:44
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