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Geth doc: a2c9ed6340 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Mu.pod6
Follow majority spelling of Raku-ish
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Mu
guifa Is there a particular reasing that doing bitwise operations on bytes requires upgrading to Int? That actually screws up results in some cases 00:26
reason*
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Xliff sena_kun: github.com/Raku/Blin/pull/23 01:23
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Geth ecosystem: tinmarino++ created pull request #485:
Add Slang::Nogil module link to META		 02:18
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Geth ecosystem: 5f8c728f0f | Tinmarino++ | META.list
Add Slang::Nogil module link to META

See github.com/tinmarino/nogil		 06:33
ecosystem: fde0517b02 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #485 from tinmarino/master

Add Slang::Nogil module link to META I'm guessing the test failure is due to the fact that the container is not updated, but please check anyway.
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Geth doc: fcfe8f62df | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6
Finish up #2632
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/language/subscripts
DOC#2632 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/2632 [Hacktoberfest][RFE][big][docs][good first issue][help wanted][new][⚠ Top Priority ⚠] Checklist for 6.d
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xinming_ Is there a way to modify the call chain of next* functions? 08:00
MasterDuke xinming_: i think not, but vrurg or jnthn would know better 08:14
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gio (0.4.2.2) by 03MARTIMM 09:42
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::N (0.17.3) by 03MARTIMM 10:12
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gtk3 (0.27.2) by 03MARTIMM 10:59
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kanliot i have a new install of raku, and zef seems to be broken. is it possible my install did not set PERL6LIB? 11:12
all i get is this from zef: " ===SORRY!=== No candidate found for 'zef' that match your criteria. Did you perhaps mean one of these? ||||||" 11:15
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Xliff kanliot: How did you install zef? 11:28
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kanliot xliff i found a page called raku-packages that offered packages for debian buster. nxadm.github.io/rakudo-pkg/#os-repositories i installed the packages, and then ran the script that fixes my $PATH 11:45
Xliff kanliot: So Raku works, but not zef? 11:55
kanliot: Try this -- (cd ~; git clone github.com/ugexe/zef; cd zef; raku -Ilib bin/zef install .) 11:56
kanliot yeah. i thought it could be the PERL6LIB in my environment, or maybe the config-json
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Term::Choose (1.6.3) by 03KUERBIS 12:02
kanliot seemed to install zef : 1 bin/ script [zef] installed to: 12:03
It says It works but ~/.raku/bin/zef --help gives the same error
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Xliff Do a `which raku` 12:13
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Xliff Then do `raku -V` and gist or paste bin it so I can check. 12:14
kanliot raku -V # output here termbin.com/u5pq 12:16
which raku outputs: /opt/rakudo-pkg/bin/raku 12:17
thx
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chloekek Is there short syntax for a pair that has the same key and value? 13:06
lizmat not that I know of
but why would you need that ? 13:07
chloekek I’m writing a script that uploads files with scp, and have a map from local filename to remote filename.
For some files I want the same name local and remote.
lizmat m: role IdentiPair { method key() { self }; method value() { self } }; sub prefix:<§>(\a) { a but IdentiPair }; dd (§42).value # needs some precedence fiddling 13:10
camelia 42
chloekek p6: my %artifacts = ‘install-nix.sh’ xx 2; dd %artifacts
camelia Hash %artifacts = {"install-nix.sh" => "install-nix.sh"}
Xliff docs.perl6.org/routine/indent… Shouldn't this be --> Str?
m: Str.indent.^candidates.gist.say 13:11
camelia Too few positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: sub prefix:<§>(\a) { Pair.new(a,a) }; dd §42
camelia 42 => 42
Xliff m: Str.indent.^name.say
camelia Too few positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
chloekek lizmat: Neat.
Xliff m: Str.^lookup('indent').candidates.gist.say
camelia (indent indent indent indent)
Xliff m: Str.^lookup('indent').candidates.map( *.signature ).gist.say
camelia ((Str:D: $steps where { ... }, *%_) (Str: $steps where { ... }, *%_) (Str: $steps where { ... }, *%_) (Str: Whatever $steps, *%_))
Xliff m: Str.^lookup('indent').candidates.map( *.signature.returns ).gist.say 13:12
camelia ((Mu) (Mu) (Mu) (Mu))
lizmat m: sub postfix:<< => >>(\a) { Pair.new(a,a) }; dd 42=> 13:14
camelia 42 => 42 13:15
Xliff O_o
m: my $a = "Multi\nLine\nString"; $a.indent(4).say
camelia Multi
Line
String
chloekek p6: sub postfix:« =>self »(\a) { Pair.new(a, a) }; dd 42=>self
camelia 42 => 42
Xliff m: my $a = "Multi\nLine\nString"; $a.indent(8).say
camelia Multi
Line
String		 13:16
Xliff Why does indent return a Str when the signatures for .indent say Mu?
moritz m: say Str ~~ Mu 13:17
camelia True
moritz it returned a Mu, no?
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Xliff 'Τ'.uniname.say 13:22
evalable6 GREEK CAPITAL LETTER TAU
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chloekek p6: my $step-1 = 1; say $step-1 15:52
camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in numeric context
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Cannot modify an immutable Int (-1)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
tbrowder hi, #raku people 15:54
xinming_ chloekek: Seems to be a parsing bug in raku. 15:56
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tbrowder i hope one of our raku authors one day soon produces a raku book for young students (and seniors, too) who have no programming experience at all. thr 15:57
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tbrowder there are several out there similat to that but using python (ugh). 15:58
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guifa chloekek: xinming_: it’s not a parsing bug. $step-1 is not a valid identifier 16:20
chloekek LTA error message then. :)
guifa After a hyphen, you must have a character that matches <alpha>
m: $step-1 = 1 16:21
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$step' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$step-1 = 1
guifa err
m: my $step-1 = 1
camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in numeric context
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Cannot modify an immutable Int (-1)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
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xinming_ guifa: Thanks, I remember wrong, Actually, I should've met something like my $xxx-1 before 16:36
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gtk3 (0.27.2.1) by 03MARTIMM 16:46
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sena_kun bisectable6, use nqp; await start nqp::getcomp('Raku').parse('say 42;'); 16:53
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bisectable6 sena_kun, Bisecting by output (old=2015.12 new=c588323) because on both starting points the exit code is 1 16:53
sena_kun, bisect log: gist.github.com/0611d39a3180b825b6...8d84a98914
sena_kun, (2016-11-02) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/ab...80e5efecbf
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guifa xinming_: lizmat has a module that extends identifiers to allow numbers at the end (but I can’t remember if it’s just 0-9, or if it’s only the sub/superscript variants 17:47
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lizmat I do ? 18:06
you can already have numbers at the end of identifiers?
m: my $a42 = 666; say $a42
camelia 666
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jdv79 m: my %h = :ke<va>; say %h<ke>:delete; say %h<asdf>:delete 18:35
camelia va
(Any)
jdv79 is there a reason the "return value on delete" there isn't documented? 18:36
Geth_ doc: 0fe3e38dbb | Coke++ | doc/Language/subscripts.pod6
fix typo in example
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/language/subscripts
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jdv79 interesting - the docs are a bit spread out and different 19:03
how come when i search for :delete, not all occurances come up? 19:04
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SmokeMachine would that be cool if .max and .min could receive a Int $n and return all $n max/min values? 19:07
lizmat SmokeMachine ?? 19:08
SmokeMachine lizmat: like: `^10 .max: 3`would return `(7, 8, 9)` 19:09
lizmat m: dd ^10 .tail: 3 19:10
camelia (7, 8, 9).Seq
lizmat like that ?
SmokeMachine lizmat: no... it would be the 3 biggest items...
lizmat m: dd ^10 .sort(-*).tail: 3
camelia (2, 1, 0).Seq 19:11
lizmat m: dd ^10 .sort(*).tail: 3
camelia Cannot resolve caller sort(Range:D: Whatever:D); none of these signatures match:
($: *%_)
($: &by, *%_)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: dd ^10 .sort.tail: 3
camelia (7, 8, 9).Seq
SmokeMachine `[3,4,5,1,7,8,9,2,6]..max: 3` would also return `(7,8,9)`
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SmokeMachine lizmat: yes, but without sort... only $n iterations... 19:12
s/\.\././
lizmat ok, gotcha now
SmokeMachine lizmat: I think it would be useful... what do you think? 19:13
lizmat yeah, feels like a useful thing to have
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lizmat please make a problem solving issue for it...so we can think more about it 19:14
SmokeMachine This isn't the first time I need it...
lizmat: I will
lizmat the only practical issue I see is that .max already accepts an optional positional: &by
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lizmat but I guess a (&by) and a (Int) and a (&by,Int) candidate should be possible 19:15
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lizmat or should that be a (Int,&by) candidate? 19:15
SmokeMachine lizmat: yes... I think so 19:16
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SmokeMachine lizmat: (Int, :&by)? (&by, :$num) 19:17
?
lizmat discussions like that, right ?\
afk for a bit&
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Geth_ ¦ problem-solving: FCO assigned to jnthn Issue No easy way of getting the N highest/lowest items on a list github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/172 19:25
doc: jdv++ created pull request #3313:
Doc :delete a bit more completely.		 19:27
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guifa gist.github.com/alabamenhu/2fec7a8...4a2ae2f04d 19:34
So I’ve been working a little bit on this (right now mainly the binary) but would definitely welcome some feedback
(it’s on a binary and objecty grammar, which requires creating slangs but I want to keep them as Raku-ish as possible as I go) 19:35
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guifa It’s also a quick write up so probably riddled with mistakes and bad ideas 19:37
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jdv79 is there a doc'd way to install bin? 19:44
Geth_ doc: 4919a95fb0 | (Justin DeVuyst)++ | 3 files
Doc :delete a bit more completely.
doc: e0afde4e96 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 3 files
Merge pull request #3313 from jdv/delete-adverb-additions

Doc :delete a bit more completely.
jdv79 i see zef manages it but it seems unofficial
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guifa jdv79: you mean to install rakudo binaries or to instal modules? 20:04
zef is the standard for managing modules, etc
jdv79 i meant bin files in dists. i guess its just a dir cp, basically. 20:05
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chloekek When you install a distribution, it wraps the files in bin as executables for you. 20:16
I don’t know if Zef exposes those in any special way, but that’s what CompUnit::Repository::Installation.install does. 20:17
They appear in the bin folder inside the repository.
I believe Zef puts the repository in your home directory in ~/.raku/site (so bin would be ~/.raku/site/bin) or something like that. I don’t know the exact location but it’s something with ‘site’. 20:18
Here is the specific code for doing that: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/2e60...#L206-L230 20:24
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ab5tract o/ #raku 20:33
chloekek ab5tract: sup 20:34
ab5tract been missing all my peeps on the channel
first time I've logged in since we lost DrForr. Carries a sad feel on multiple levels 20:35
I've been more or less MIA for two years though, which is why the "I've been gone too long" level hits kind of hard 20:38
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ab5tract despite that, it's nothing to missing Jeff. I know it's a sort of old news to a lot of people here but since I didn't sign on to say it back then, "Damnit, you were a super interesting person to draw into a conversation Jeff!" 20:41
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ab5tract I never met another person like him. If I ever do again, I hope I recognize and cherish them. 20:51
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Geth_ doc: e7247ac048 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/hashmap.pod6
Attempt to clarify some elementary key sort issues
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/language/hashmap
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SmokeMachine something that could also be interesting would be :k, :v, :p on .max and .min... 21:05
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SmokeMachine I was expecting those would exist... 21:08
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SmokeMachine shouldn't this: 21:16
m: my $a = 1; $a any= 2; say $a
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $a = 1; $a7⏏5 any= 2; say $a
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
statement end
statement modifier
…
SmokeMachine be equal to this?
my $a = 1; $a = any($a, 2); say $a 21:17
evalable6 any(1, 2)
SmokeMachine m: my $a = 1; $a = any($a, 2); say $a
camelia any(1, 2)
SmokeMachine m: say &any
camelia &any
SmokeMachine m: my $a = 1; $a |= 2; say $a 21:18
camelia any(1, 2)
SmokeMachine that's it... :)
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SmokeMachine lizmat: and do you think :k, :v and :p would make sense for .min/.max? 21:23
lizmat :v would be the default, no ?
SmokeMachine yes...
lizmat so only added for consistency
SmokeMachine but getting the index with :k would be great 21:24
lizmat well, it would not make sense on Supplys
or on Seqs
SmokeMachine m: say ^10 .map(* + 1).first: * %% 2, :p 21:25
camelia 1 => 2
SmokeMachine lizmat: ^^ on a Seq
lizmat and what would you use the key value for ?
you can't use it as an index, because there's nothing left to index on 21:26
SmokeMachine the key would be the index of the max value on the list...
lizmat in that example: what list ?
SmokeMachine you could use that on the original array if the seq was based on a array...
lizmat an Array is not a Seq 21:27
@a.max(3)
@a.max(3,:k)
would make sense
SmokeMachine m: my @a = ^50; my $index = @a.map(* * 2).first: * == 40, :k; say @a[$index]
camelia 20
SmokeMachine m: say Supply.from-list(^10).first(* == 3, :p) 21:29
camelia Supply.new
SmokeMachine m: Supply.from-list(^10).first(* == 3, :p).tap: &say 21:30
camelia 3
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ToddAndMargo raku 2020.01 for Windows. Anyone know how to fix this problem? zef install OAuth2::Client::Google===> Searching for: OAuth2::Client::GoogleEnabled extracting backends [git path psunzip] don't understand C:\Users\todd/.zef/tmp\1585022838.2848.5555.088006717173\OAuth2-Client-Google-0.1.1.tar.gzYou may need to configure one of the following 22:29
backends, or install its underlying software - [tar p5tar unzip]
timotimo you need to make a "tar" available to your zef that can unpack gzipped tarballs 22:37
alternatively extract it manually and then "zef install ." in the unpacked directory 22:44
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ToddAndMargo HI Timo, how do I make tar available? 22:52
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guifa ab5tract: It’s good to have you back, and indeed, his loss is pretty tragic. I was really looking forward to finally meeting him in person in Houston 23:22
guifa laughs at method names in rakudo’s enum rules: 23:32
:my %*MYSTERY; [ … || <.panic>] <.explain_mystery> <.cry_sorrows> 23:33
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tbrowder ToddAndMargo: i can onlyb 23:46
i can only speak for myself, but as a module author i have not yet ensured my modules work on Windows or Mac 23:47
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tbrowder but it's on my todo list... 23:49
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ToddAndMargo If I can ever install it, I can test it in that operating system whose name I shall not mention 23:50
tbrowder todd, i haven't been following this thread today and i know i owe you some help on linux, but have you been able to install it on win with "zef --force-install"? 23:55
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tbrowder as an aside, does margo read all your mail? 23:56
margo must be quite a friend!
ToddAndMargo for the last 54 years. best girlfriend and wife ever 23:58
will try force is a few minutes
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