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lembark | pastebin.com/arrsha0K | 00:00 | |
tellable6 | hey lembark, you have a message: gist.github.com/507c5ef7686bceea8d...f0994ecb24 | ||
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lembark | Havn't seen the path recently, whatever it was must have been fixed. | 00:02 | |
Checking FindBin, Filesystem::Parent, FindBin::libs: all of them pass with 2020.05: pastebin.com/arrsha0K | 00:03 | ||
If I'm missing a test or not testing something properly please warn me. | |||
Thank you. | 00:04 | ||
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colomon_ | err… if in some fit of over-organization I’ve nested a class in the method of another class, is there an easy/idomatic way to get at the outer method’s self object? | 02:15 | |
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timotimo | colomon_: for that to work, classes would have to be closures, which i don't think they are? you could stash the self in a variable that's "is dynamic", though. or perhaps i'm mistaken and you can actually OUTER::OUTER::...::OUTER::<self> | 02:30 | |
colomon_ | I’m trying stashing it in a variable of the outer method… though I got bogged down trying to sort out some tricky logic and haven’t tried compiling it with that change yet. | 02:34 | |
timotimo | you can use role parameterization to hold on to the self | 02:35 | |
guifa | even easier | 02:36 | |
for the inner method | |||
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guifa | method inner(\parent: args...) { class Inner { ... } } | 02:38 | |
inside of the Inner class, you can use parent to refer to the outer class, and self to refer to the inner | 02:39 | ||
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guifa | m: class Outer { method foo(\parent: ) { class Inner { method bar { parent, self } }; Inner.new; } }; say Outer.new.foo.bar | 02:40 | |
camelia | (Outer.new Outer::Inner.new) | ||
guifa | (sorry, indentation makes that code look MUCH cleaner) | ||
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colomon_ | guifa++ # very interesting | 02:42 | |
guifa | Most of the time people limit the method's invocant signature to just a Type or a :D :U definedness thing | 02:43 | |
But you can also specify the name too — there's nothing special about self, it's just the default name | 02:44 | ||
timotimo | double-check if it closurizes correctly | 02:45 | |
m: class Outer { has $.attr; method foo(\parent: ) { class Inner { method bar { parent, self } }; Inner.new; } }; (my $first-outer = Outer.new(:attr<one>)).foo.bar(); (my $second-outer = Outer.new(:attr<two>)).foo.bar(); $first-outer.foo.bar | 02:47 | ||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
timotimo | m: class Outer { has $.attr; method foo(\parent: ) { class Inner { method bar { parent, self } }; Inner.new; } }; say (my $first-outer = Outer.new(:attr<one>)).foo.bar(); say (my $second-outer = Outer.new(:attr<two>)).foo.bar(); say $first-outer.foo.bar | ||
camelia | (Outer.new(attr => "one") Outer::Inner.new) (Outer.new(attr => "two") Outer::Inner.new) (Outer.new(attr => "one") Outer::Inner.new) |
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timotimo | am i testing what i think i'm testing? | ||
i should be in bed %) | |||
guifa | It seems to work okay for me | 02:48 | |
tio.run/##XY7BCoMwEETv@Yo5CNWDOfZg...S9/P@xCOED | |||
errr | 02:49 | ||
no, it doesn't | |||
Yeah, you'll just need to store a reference. Just use a Inner.new(parent => self ... ) | 02:51 | ||
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guifa2 wonders why classes aren't closures. performance? | 03:00 | ||
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moritz | closures can't be introspected | 06:28 | |
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guifa | moritz++ aah okay | 07:02 | |
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moritz | classes have the whole meta object layer | 08:24 | |
code will get a meta layer with a user-exposed AST and macros | |||
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abraxxa | is rakudo.org unmaintained? | 08:54 | |
it still lists 2020.02.1 in the Downloads section and @perl6org Twitter feed unter Community | |||
or wasn't that renamed? | 08:55 | ||
moritz | it was | ||
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moritz | I've pushed a commit to fix the twitter handle to the perl6/rakudo.org repo. No idea if that's still the primary source, and if it's updated automatically | 09:15 | |
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moritz | rba: do you know that? ^^ | 09:32 | |
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rba | moritz: "should" update automatically. Will check now why it doesn't. | 09:53 | |
tellable6 | 2020-05-08T10:05:47Z #raku-dev <AlexDaniel> rba colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...-05-08#l41 | ||
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abraxxa | moritz: thanks! | 10:01 | |
rba | looks better now. In case autoupdate is stuck again, please let me know... | 10:04 | |
abraxxa | the mailing list is still named 'perl6-users'? | 10:05 | |
moritz | seems like | ||
abraxxa | alerts.perl6.org/ has an expired cert | 10:06 | |
linked under 'Issue Tracker' | |||
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bazzaar | o/ raku | 10:11 | |
sena_kun | bazzaar, o/ | 10:13 | |
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bazzaar | I just upgraded to the 2020.05.1 point release, expecting to have to re-install all the modules that I'd installed on top of 2020.05 (a few hours before), but zef list find them all so am I correct to assume they don't need to be re-installed? | 10:17 | |
Altai-man_ | bazzaar, they don't need to be. They will be recompiled if necessary, though, so running some code for the first time might be unusually slower, but on the second time when precompilation is done it'll be faster. | 10:18 | |
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bazzaar | Altai-man: thanks for your guidance | 10:20 | |
maybe on a related note, is anyone getting a build error installing Digest::SHA256::Native | 10:21 | ||
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Altai-man_ | bazzaar, installed just fine on my linux box, can you provide a log please? | 10:24 | |
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bazzaar | Altai-man: here's a gist of the zef --verbose install output (gist.github.com/bazzaar/c0d1a7c6bc...c2727e27b) is that sufficient? | 10:42 | |
I just updated the gist with the raku -v info | 10:47 | ||
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Altai-man_ | bazzaar, I'd create a bugreport about this for the module | 10:47 | |
bazzaar, created one - github.com/bduggan/p6-digest-sha25...e/issues/2 | 10:49 | ||
bazzaar, thanks for reporting! | |||
bazzaar | Altai-man:thanks, you beat me to it :-) my one finger typing is so slow :-) | 10:51 | |
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timotimo | abraxxa: looks like the entirety of alerts.perl6.org is down, and alerts.raku.org not set up yet | 10:54 | |
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abraxxa | timotimo: thanks for checking! | 11:25 | |
timotimo | i just removed the s from https :D | 11:30 | |
poohman | m: grammar test { regex TOP {<key>\:<value>}; regex key {\V*};regex value {\V*};}; my $a = test1.parse("name:winnie");say $a<key>;my $c="key";say $a<$c>; | 11:44 | |
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Undeclared routine: test1 used at line 1 |
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poohman | m: grammar test { regex TOP {<key>\:<value>}; regex key {\V*};regex value {\V*};}; my $a = test.parse("name:winnie");say $a<key>;my $c="key";say $a<$c>; | ||
camelia | 「name」 Nil |
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poohman | hello all | 11:45 | |
what should I do to $c to get it working within <>? | |||
jnthn | The $c isn't the problem, it's that the <...> form is for literal keys. Use $a{$c} | 11:50 | |
poohman | ok thanks jnthn | 11:51 | |
lizmat | poohman: remember, curlies indicate there's code inside | ||
< > indicate quoted words | 11:52 | ||
poohman | m: grammar test { regex TOP {<key>\:<value>}; regex key {\V*};regex value {\V*};}; my $a = test.parse("name:winnie");say $a<key>;my $c="key";say $a<$c>;say $a"key"; | 11:53 | |
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Two terms in a row at <tmp>:1 ------> 3ay $a<key>;my $c="key";say $a<$c>;say $a7⏏5"key"; expecting any of: infix infix stopper postfix statement e… |
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poohman | m: grammar test { regex TOP {<key>\:<value>}; regex key {\V*};regex value {\V*};}; my $a = test.parse("name:winnie");say $a<key>;my $c="key";say $a<$c>;say $a{"key"}; | ||
camelia | 「name」 Nil 「name」 |
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poohman | thanks | 11:54 | |
jjmerelo | So | 12:00 | |
m: sub foo( $bar, :$n) { return "$bar and $n" }; foo( "Hey" ):n | |||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
jjmerelo | m: sub foo( $bar, :$n) { return "$bar and $n" }; say foo( "Hey" ):n | ||
camelia | Hey and True | ||
jjmerelo | Did everyone know this? That you can use named arguments _as adverbs_? | 12:01 | |
m: sub foo( $bar, :$n) { return "$bar and $n" }; say foo( "Hey", :n) | |||
camelia | Hey and True | ||
jjmerelo | m: sub foo( $bar, :$n) { return "$bar and $n" }; say foo( "Hey" ):!n | 12:02 | |
camelia | Hey and False | ||
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jnthn | Adverbs are passed as named arguments in general, and postcircumfix:<( )> is a fancy postfix in the same way array indexing is. | 12:06 | |
That said, even though it's possible and makes sense that it would work for the sake of consistency, I've still not found a situation where I'd actually do this :) | 12:07 | ||
jjmerelo | It's used in Data::StaticTable | ||
It needs to be documented, I guess. | 12:08 | ||
I thought it was actually applying an adverb to the result of the method. | |||
github.com/shinobi/Data-StaticTabl....t#L34-L40 | 12:09 | ||
jnthn | Cute, I guess :) | 12:11 | |
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[Coke] | . | 12:33 | |
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tigerpaws | Good morning. I've been reading the advent calendars from the beginning; they are fascinating. Thanks to you all. | 12:44 | |
sena_kun | \o/ | 12:46 | |
moritz | tigerpaws: you're welcome :D | 12:48 | |
tigerpaws | I see perlcabal mentioned several times in the advent calendars, but it no longer exists. Does anyone know where it's gone? | 13:00 | |
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moritz | hard to tell due to the different nicknames in the different media | 13:04 | |
tigerpaws | What I saw at perlcabal.org/syn/ were mentions of the perl6 synopsis, which I understand are the detailed specs. | 13:05 | |
[Coke] | cabal was a loose org of people. It is, so far as I know, no longer a thing. | 13:06 | |
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tigerpaws | Thanks. I was just trying to follow some links in old (2010) advent calendar articles. | 13:11 | |
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Geth | doc: 0143a7cb90 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Mu.pod6 .perl to .raku |
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doc: ecfee5bcfa | Coke++ | xt/code.pws new code example word |
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doc: 4a3569ebcf | Coke++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6 typo |
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linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Mu | ||
linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/regexes | ||
Geth | doc: coke assigned to stoned Issue xt/routine-definitions.t failures github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3390 coke unassigned from stoned Issue xt/routine-definitions.t failures github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3390 learn new code snippet |
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poohman | hello - if a variable has nil value, then I can check using defined. Can "any" also be checked with defined? | 14:30 | |
timotimo | assigning Nil to a variable will reset it to its default value, which for variables without a given type will be "Any", i.e. the any type object | 14:31 | |
Any will have .defined be False | |||
poohman | thanks timotimo | 14:32 | |
robertle | I am confused about the JS backend: is it meant to run in a browser eventually, or is it meant to be like the moar and java backends for actual computers, just using a JS engine? | 14:33 | |
poohman | but sometimes for example when a Grammar has not match - I can see Nil printed - is Nil the default value for grammars? | ||
moritz | the default value for failed matches | ||
timotimo | robertle: the js backend already runs in a browser, as well as node | ||
[Coke] | It is runnable in a browser today (there's a URL somewhere that showcases this). if you want to run it locally on top of node, I recommend using the npm package to install it rather than trying to build it from the repo | ||
robertle | ok, great. I somehow missed the browser part and could only see the node part. browser is what I am after... | 14:34 | |
poohman | thanks | 14:35 | |
timotimo | perl6.github.io/6pad/ | 14:37 | |
surprisingly hard to find, haha | |||
loading rakudo.js takes a little while, though when you first hit execute | 14:38 | ||
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robertle | hehe, yeah. on this machine: almost forever :) | 14:40 | |
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tadzik | for me it loaded for ages, but then even the first run was fast:) | 14:40 | |
about as fast as my moar CLI, at least in eye-seconds | 14:41 | ||
[Coke] | can someone add that URL to the rakudo readme or someplace in the docs? | ||
(the 6pad one) | 14:42 | ||
m: say 6^..^9, 6^...^9 | 14:43 | ||
camelia | (6 7 8) | ||
[Coke] | m: say 6^...^9 | ||
camelia | (7 8) | ||
[Coke] | m: say [+] 6^...^9 | ||
camelia | 15 | ||
[Coke] | ^^ that last one is failing in the 6pad site. | ||
(ah, [+] is not needed) | |||
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thundergnat | tigerpaws: The synopsis (used to be perlcabal) are still available: design.raku.org/ Be aware, they are out-of -date and are mostly of historical interest. | 15:01 | |
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lizmat | yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/05/11/2020-...e-release/ | 15:36 | |
tigerpaws | thundergnat: Thanks, I'll have a look, with the understanding they are out of date. | 15:41 | |
tellable6 | tigerpaws, I'll pass your message to thundergnat | ||
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[Coke] | .tell vrurg - there a several cases in Test::Async where it's and its usage needs to be updated - it looks like the docs are duplicated in two places in the repo. Where should a PR focus on? | 15:52 | |
tellable6 | [Coke], I'll pass your message to vrurg | ||
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vrurg | [Coke]: sorry, what do you mean with 'focus'? | 16:22 | |
tellable6 | 2020-05-11T15:52:24Z #raku <[Coke]> vrurg - there a several cases in Test::Async where it's and its usage needs to be updated - it looks like the docs are duplicated in two places in the repo. Where should a PR focus on? | ||
SmokeMachine | m: multi trait_mod:<is>(Attribute $attr, :&bla!) {say 42}; role :: { has $.a is bla{;} } | 16:23 | |
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Cannot invoke this object (REPR: Null; VMNull) |
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[Coke] | vrurg: where do I make the changes? I assume you are generating the .md or the .rakudoc files, but I don't know which | 16:24 | |
I hestitate to make the same changes blindly in both | 16:25 | ||
vrurg | [Coke]: rakudoc is the source. | ||
[Coke] | also, the README has "testing testing" which could be correct but reads like a duplicate word. | ||
vrurg: ok. | |||
tigerpaws | m: say 6^...^9 | ||
camelia | (7 8) | ||
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vrurg | [Coke]: right, 'testing testing' and then 'tested' later... Frankly saying, I wrote it in write-only mode, without proofreading due to lack of time. | 16:27 | |
[Coke]: and thank you! | |||
jjmerelo | Did I hear rakudoc? | ||
vrurg | jjmerelo: don't worry, it was about file extension :) | 16:29 | |
jjmerelo goes back to cave | |||
vrurg | jjmerelo: BTW, I saw notifications. Will look into is-run vs. is_run later today. I used is_run in a test or two, so it's usable. | ||
vrurg is afk for a while | 16:30 | ||
jjmerelo | vrurg I know, but it's probably not worth the trouble to port the current code to it. We can simply call it some other way, since it's got a different signature and all. | 16:31 | |
tigerpaws | @[Coke]: why is 6^...^9 working here but not in 6pad or my own copy of rakudo 6.d: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling: | 16:32 | |
Malformed postfix call | |||
------> say 6^...^⏏9; | |||
I've tried with or without spaces around the ^. No dice. | 16:33 | ||
MasterDuke | i think ^...^ was just recently implemented | ||
committable6: all say 6^...^9 | 16:34 | ||
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committable6 | MasterDuke, gist.github.com/dd6a89167e1e60ce02...5c9f21d3a6 | 16:34 | |
MasterDuke | introduced after 2020.02.1 | 16:35 | |
tigerpaws | Ah. That makes sense. No wonder. Thanks. So the rakudo running here is basically the raw latest commits? | 16:36 | |
Very cool! | |||
timotimo | you can run any version that successfully compiled using committable6 | 16:38 | |
MasterDuke | usually, it mentions the commit hash in its response | ||
tigerpaws | I see. I noticed the hash id, but hadn't figured out what it refers to. I learn so much lurking in this channel. | 16:39 | |
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konvertex | Do we have a short equivalent to ruby's enumerable#cycle in the stdlib? Something that repeats elems of a seq forever/up to n times? [1,2].cycle => 1,2,1,2,... | 17:55 | |
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[Coke] | m: say [1,2] x Inf | 17:56 | |
camelia | Cat object not yet implemented. Sorry. in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Dwarf | Hello, I'm venturing into the world of raku and decided to start with a simple dice roll parser to learn grammars. I want to say I've come decently far except for the fact that it doesn't actually match anything. Any pointers are welcome: p.bcome.nl/?33b5ba5828cde1da#xxv2Q...Drxtm+0gM= | 17:57 | |
jnthn | m: say [1,2] xx Inf | ||
camelia | (...) | ||
jnthn | m: say ([1,2] xx Inf)[^10] | ||
camelia | ([1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2] [1 2]) | ||
jnthn | m: say (|[1,2] xx Inf)[^10] | ||
camelia | (1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2) | ||
konvertex | Sweet, thanks a lot! | ||
[Coke] | jnthn++ | 17:58 | |
lizmat | m: slip(1,2) xx * # perhaps better readable | 18:02 | |
m: dd slip(1,2) xx * # perhaps better readable | |||
camelia | (timeout) | ||
(1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2… | |||
[Coke] | lizmat++ | 18:03 | |
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ctilmes | I know I'm a bit over my head here, but I'm trying to use nqp to do stuff I know I'm not supposed to. I can define a native 'str' in a CStruct, then nqp::bindattr_s() a string into it and that works fine. | 18:10 | |
But how do I make it a NULL pointer? I can't bind a type object into it | |||
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jnthn | ctilmes: Maybe bind nqp::null_s | 18:13 | |
lizmat | ctilmes: you may also find github.com/Raku/nqp/blob/master/do...s.markdown enlighting | 18:14 | |
[Coke]++ for keeping that up-to-date | |||
cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Date::Calendar::FrenchRevolutionary (0.0.5) by 03JFORGET | 18:15 | |
New module released to CPAN! Cro::HTTP::Session::Pg (0.1) by 03JNTHN | |||
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timotimo | `use I::Solemny::Swear::I::Am::Up::To::No::Good;` | 18:17 | |
ctilmes | jnthn, lizmat: Thanks -- that's perfect, it works the way I want it to. | 18:18 | |
[Coke] | lizmat: oh, only barely. so much left. :) | ||
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konvertex | lizmat: thanks for the that slip variant, but (|@freqs xx Inf).produce(* + *)... is fine. Doing advent of code atm and simply wanted to match d's freqs.cycle.cumulativeFold!"a+b"... | 18:21 | |
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jdv79 | anyone know why the currency "symbol" for the uae dirham copies backwards? | 18:38 | |
is that some sort of unicode left vs right read thing? | |||
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jdv79 | should it be easy to call strfmon_l() with NativeCall? | 19:20 | |
ToddAndMargo | Anyone on newbie duty? Is there a module for Windows that would allow me to create a fill in form? City, state, etc, you fill in the blanks? | 19:22 | |
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Marcool | Hi all! | 19:54 | |
github user alabamenhu isn't here by any chance are you? | |||
MasterDuke | Marcool: i believe that's guifa2 | 19:55 | |
guifa2 | That's me | 19:56 | |
Marcool | oh hi! | ||
ctilmes | jdv79: possibly -- if you need variadic, it is more complicated. If you need multiple architectures it is more complicated. | ||
Marcool | I posted an issue on github for LanguageTag the other day | ||
Mark | |||
guifa2 grumbles about someone having taken 'guifa' on github | |||
Marcool | :D | ||
ctilmes | jdv79: if you just hard code the specific list of args/types you are calling it isn't bad | ||
Marcool | I'm still trying to get Fluent to work and just can't get my head around this one test failure I'm seeing | 19:57 | |
guifa2 | Marcool : I can take a look at it in a min for you | 19:58 | |
what's the error it's giving? | |||
guifa2 hasn't worked on Fluent in a while, sadly | 19:59 | ||
Marcool | well it's related to the signature of plural-count | ||
tbrowder | hi, all | ||
Marcool | which is a sub exported by Intl::CLDR | ||
we're talking about test 2 of t/03-Selectors.t (in Fluent) | 20:00 | ||
tbrowder | any idea why DateTime.local shows the TZ offset? | ||
Marcool | guifa2: I'll post a pastebin gime a sec | 20:02 | |
tbrowder | it should show "local" time, e.g.: yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss.ss | ||
guifa2 | tbrowder that's the default .Str for all DateTime objects | ||
.local just returns another DateTime object with the timezone set differently | 20:03 | ||
Marcool | guifa2: here it is: framabin.org/p/?f9eb8e00b8a333da#B...GDHaNFJUY= | ||
tbrowder | hm, in my prog with no formatter i'm getting an offset...but let me double check again...back in a mo | 20:04 | |
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tbrowder | nope. with the latest raku, i get the tz offset | 20:07 | |
in either case, local or not | |||
m: say DateTime.now | 20:08 | ||
camelia | 2020-05-11T22:08:06.372000+02:00 | ||
tbrowder | m: say DateTime.now.local | ||
camelia | 2020-05-11T22:08:32.021644+02:00 | ||
tbrowder | makes no sense to me | 20:09 | |
MasterDuke | committable6: 2020.02.1 say DateTime.now; say DateTime.now.local | ||
committable6 | MasterDuke, ¦2020.02.1: «2020-05-11T22:09:05.512677+02:002020-05-11T22:09:05.515432+02:00» | ||
guifa2 | Marcool hmm, I probably just need to adjust either Fluent or Intl::Plurals to coerce to an Int it seems like. | ||
MasterDuke | committable6: 2020.01 say DateTime.now; say DateTime.now.local | ||
committable6 | MasterDuke, ¦2020.01: «2020-05-11T22:09:47.518958+02:002020-05-11T22:09:47.524534+02:00» | ||
guifa2 | Once I'm done with lunch I should be able to fix it fairly quickly | ||
Marcool | guifa2: oh it's the Int is it? I was trying to fix it and though it had to do with the Str/LanguageTag part… | 20:10 | |
guifa2: please, eat your lunch :) | |||
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guifa2 | but also, I haven't touched Fluent in a while and have made a lot more changes to the Intl:: library since then, so there may bee some interfacing disconnect there | 20:11 | |
tbrowder | i want to file an issue but not if i'm misunderstanding local | ||
tobs | tbrowder: dealing with datetimes is prone to misunderstandings everywhere :-) | 20:13 | |
guifa2 | tbrowder: a DateTime is naturally created with the timezone set to $*TZ | ||
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guifa2 | .local converts a DateTime to give the equivalent time using $*TZ | 20:14 | |
which might make you think that .local is useless and for most users it probably is | |||
tbrowder | yes, but at least i should have an adverb to chop off the offset. i shouldn't have to write a formatter | ||
guifa2 | you really should use a formatter for it, though. And even better, use Intl::Format::DateTime so it's localized | 20:16 | |
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tbrowder | i use :truncate-to and that doesn't chop it either | 20:18 | |
ay, yr module is it? i wasn't aware of it | |||
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guifa2 | again, it hasn't been touched in a bit but that's what I was working on the most before I had to pause back in Nov or Dec, but the date formatting for gregorian dates should be okay (slash, bug report if they're not) | 20:20 | |
tbrowder | i'll check it out. thnx | ||
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tbrowder | guifa: haven't found the module yet. not in modules, not on yr github acct, i must be blind | 20:32 | |
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tbrowder | ok, given i have to live with the offset, is there | 20:34 | |
forget that ff, pls ^^^ | 20:35 | ||
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tbrowder | i've learned to live with the offset now...thnx | 20:41 | |
rypervenche | What would be the best way to do a search and replace on all values in a Hash? I know I could write a loop to do a substr on each key, but is there a more efficient way to do this? | ||
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guifa | Alright, on main computer, let's see what's going on | 20:48 | |
guifa2 | tbrowder: it's a sub module in Intl::CLDR, sorry I should have mentioned that | ||
I actually started out making Intl::CLDR so that I could handle plurals in Fluent, the project ballooned a bit and I'm working on reorganizing stuff slowly but surely | 20:50 | ||
Marcool | guifa2: I'm happy to help, honestly I've tried to figure out where that test failure is coming from but the code base is a bit too wide for me to get exactly what's doing what in a few hours | 20:54 | |
guifa2: (oh sorry, you were talking about the DateTime issue…) | |||
Geth | doc: 8e14dfb9b1 | Coke++ | 3 files .raku to .perl (mark it ok where it is) Part of #3309 |
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linkable6 | DOC#3309 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3309 [docs][update] Change .perl to .raku in examples | ||
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guifa | Marcool I am working on it, just realized I've got a buggy CLDR install, fixing that first | 21:08 | |
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guifa . o O ( this is why I hate having to take a sudden break from coding ) | 21:13 | ||
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guifa | Hrm, the only thing I can think of right now is that when I renamed stuff from Intl::BCP47 to Intl::LanguageTag for some reason it's catching it as being two distinct classes | 21:27 | |
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guifa | So the issue was in CLDR, not in Fluent | 21:27 | |
Marcool check out the newest version of CLDR on github, I think that should work | 21:34 | ||
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[Coke] | if I wanted to do something with a GUI that had a prayer of working on win/mac/linux in raku, any pointers? | 21:44 | |
... (rakudo.js, probably? :) | |||
or Cro. hurm. | |||
timotimo | yeah, cro, or be bold and Inline::Python into Qt | 21:45 | |
[Coke] | webapp might be the way to go. :| | ||
Grinnz | always webapp :) | 21:46 | |
tadzik | I've had good recent experiences with Gtk for cross-platformness recently, though not in Raku | 21:47 | |
Grinnz | i have two driving reasons to never bother with any desktop toolkits - i already know how to throw bootstrap in my web apps, and i can be reasonably certain it will still look right in windows and on phones | 21:49 | |
and decent even, not just "right" | |||
the other reasons are mostly selfish :) | 21:50 | ||
timotimo | well, we do have GTK::Simple and Simpler i think | ||
and we did build some DLLs for windows | |||
nothing for macos, though | |||
guifa adds rakudo.js to his list of things to learn this summer | 22:01 | ||
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Marcool | guifa: looks like you're got a stray "use lib ../../../" in Intl::CLDR file lib/Format/DateTime.pm6 | 22:12 | |
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guifa | Marcool was it still able to compile? If not, I'll reupdate | 22:16 | |
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Marcool | guifa: the same plural-count error is showing up in the 04-Functions.t test now, first test… | 22:16 | |
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timotimo | huh, when you include that file, it'll go off of the PWD, won't it? | 22:16 | |
Marcool | guifa: framabin.org/p/?10239ba64a894852#p...erlQYW7x4= | 22:17 | |
timotimo | so if you are in /home/marcool and -I ThatFolder -MIntl::CLDR, it'll go off and read out the entirety of your filesystems to build a hash | ||
Marcool | timotimo: I removed that line from guifa's code :) | 22:18 | |
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Marcool | (I meant to write "looks like you'Ve got"…) | 22:21 | |
guifa | Marcool ah crap. I think at one point in time the plural-count() function defaulted to the current user language | ||
weird that that error iddn't point up when I tried to do a zef install | |||
didn't pop* | |||
Marcool | right that makes sense | 22:23 | |
not sure how the tests passed though :/ | |||
I get tripped up when I'm messing with modules between what's installed and what's in cwd sometimes when running tests | |||
I suppose one should "zef uninstall .; zef install ." | 22:24 | ||
guifa | Yeah I'm guilty of the same | 22:25 | |
Marcool | you sure have a sence of aesthetics in your code, I love it, example : github.com/alabamenhu/Intl-CLDR/bl...ime.pm6#L7 | 22:27 | |
: | |||
:D | |||
guifa | so for some reason it's not getting the number pattern correctly for AS. Let me see if I can figure out what's going on | 22:29 | |
Definitely an issue in CLDR and not Fluent — the same callworks okay with EN or AR | 22:30 | ||
Yup. Confirmed. It's a problem it seems in the fallback code. | 22:32 | ||
So you should be okay testing it for now with EN/AR/ES etc but I'll try to track down the CLDR fallback issue | 22:33 | ||
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guifa | Bingo found it | 22:43 | |
In META6.json for some reason all of the language alias data files weren't present | |||
And root.data is ahem, kind of the most important | |||
Marcool | guifa: ahah | ||
I've force-test installed it, and now have this on first call to localized(): | |||
Use of uninitialized value %result{'resources/localization/en.ftl'} of type Any in string context. | |||
have I messed up the resource file thing somehow? | 22:44 | ||
that file definitely exists… | |||
(from cwd, I'm just testing from a plain raku prompt, use Fluent; add-localization-basepath('localization/', :resource); add-localization-languages('en', 'fr'); say(localized 'example' ); | 22:45 | ||
guifa | Ah | ||
don't use :resource | |||
that's for modules only | |||
Marcool | okay! | ||
works :D | |||
guifa | (you access module resource files differently from disk files, so I had to add the option) | ||
Marcool | that makes sense | 22:46 | |
I had it there 'cos I'm trying to write this as a module | |||
guifa | All these CLDR data files are autogenerated, I think I should finally write a META6.json autogenerator lol | ||
Marcool | it's a lot of great work anyhow thanks for taking the time to debug as I asked! | 22:47 | |
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guifa | No, seriously, thanks for kicking my but in gear to fix this stuff. I'm supposed to present on this in June for the P&R CitC so.... needs to be updated and functioning :-) | 22:50 | |
Marcool | I'm sure it will be :-) thanks for all the work | 22:52 | |
guifa | I need to do a pretty heavy overhaul of the Fluent code, btw. They've updated the standard a little bit, although they've done good at keeping syntax changes up to date. | 22:53 | |
and no breaking | |||
non* | |||
Marcool | there are a few "deprecation" warning in the tests too, but you seem to have coded them so not sure what they're about... about the .type method that should be a .valid ? | 22:56 | |
guifa | Yeah. LanguageTag has also been in a state of overhaul :-) | ||
I'm probably going to focus on finishing that one out, since it's kind of the most important of the modules since everyone things else depends (literally and figuratively) on it | 22:57 | ||
Marcool | ok I need to sleep some now! have a good (rest of your) day all! | 23:01 | |
cheers guifa! | |||
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Geth | ¦ doc: tbrowder self-assigned Better document use of '$' in forma github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3394 | 23:06 | |
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