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melezhik2 | I've just added my comment to the latest Rakudo release - mybf.io/project/Rakudo/reviews#mel...1635034626 , if someone has something to say - you can reply to the same thread | 03:35 | |
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andinus | is there a way to get all combinations with repetition? | 06:57 | |
i want all possible combinations of throw 2 dices | |||
m: (1..6).combinations: 2 | |||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
andinus | m: say (1..6).combinations: 2 | ||
camelia | ((1 2) (1 3) (1 4) (1 5) (1 6) (2 3) (2 4) (2 5) (2 6) (3 4) (3 5) (3 6) (4 5) (4 6) (5 6)) | 06:58 | |
andinus | i could use permutations, but how do i ask it to pick only two elements from the list? it seems to permute over the whole thing | ||
say (1..6).permutations | 06:59 | ||
m: say (1..6).permutations | |||
camelia | ((1 2 3 4 5 6) (1 2 3 4 6 5) (1 2 3 5 4 6) (1 2 3 5 6 4) (1 2 3 6 4 5) (1 2 3 6 5 4) (1 2 4 3 5 6) (1 2 4 3 6 5) (1 2 4 5 3 6) (1 2 4 5 6 3) (1 2 4 6 3 5) (1 2 4 6 5 3) (1 2 5 3 4 6) (1 2 5 3 6 4) (1 2 5 4 3 6) (1 2 5 4 6 3) (1 2 5 6 3 4) (1 2 5 6 4 3… | ||
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SmokeMachine | m: say (1..6) X (1..6) | 07:45 | |
camelia | ((1 1) (1 2) (1 3) (1 4) (1 5) (1 6) (2 1) (2 2) (2 3) (2 4) (2 5) (2 6) (3 1) (3 2) (3 3) (3 4) (3 5) (3 6) (4 1) (4 2) (4 3) (4 4) (4 5) (4 6) (5 1) (5 2) (5 3) (5 4) (5 5) (5 6) (6 1) (6 2) (6 3) (6 4) (6 5) (6 6)) | ||
SmokeMachine | andinus: something like that ^^ ? | 07:47 | |
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Anton Antonov | I mentioned this yesterday— I have hard time doing development work with Raku on macOS Monterey. `zef` and `prove6` do not work. Trying to compile them from sources hangs. Compiling and installing `moar-blead` with `rakubrew` also hangs. | 09:41 | |
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lizmat | Anton Antonov: sorry to hear that. | 09:46 | |
I'm stuck on Mojave for several reasons, so can't be of much service :( | 09:47 | ||
OOC, is this on an M1 ? | |||
El_Che | Anton Antonov#7232: have you tried homebrew? Last time I checked it had raku binaries | 09:48 | |
(and formulas) | |||
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solitario | 5 | 10:01 | |
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Anton Antonov | @lizmat No, it is on a Intel-processor MacBook Pro. | 10:42 | |
@E_Che I tried `homebrew` — I can run Raku. I cannot do much software development with it. (On macOS Monterey.) | 10:43 | ||
lizmat | Anton Antonov: perhaps start with gisting the output of `perl Configure.pl --gen-moar` ? | 10:46 | |
Anton Antonov | @lizmat Ok. I will try that. (Later today.) | 10:47 | |
I have to say I see these problems as my fault — I should have not rushed upgrading to macOS Monterey… | 10:48 | ||
El_Che | Can't upu install zef from homebrew of kickstarted with the homebrew raku? | 11:08 | |
lizmat | Anton Antonov: fwiw, I've come to the conclusion I won't upgrade MacOS anymore | 11:11 | |
after Catalina destroyed all of my videos / audio workflows | 11:12 | ||
so the one machine I had upgraded, I had to downgrade to Mojave at great expense and weeks of work :-( | |||
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El_Che | lizmat: how did an OS update do that? They killed previously bundled applications? | 11:30 | |
lizmat | killed iPhoto for one | 11:34 | |
and with no viable upgrade path | |||
they *do* provide an upgrade path, but after it had been busy on my photo database for a **WEEK**, I killed the orocess | 11:35 | ||
and that was the 3rd try | |||
El_Che | I read they introduces an app called photos | 11:36 | |
lizmat | yes, and the conversion program does not run to completion :-( | 11:37 | |
so: iPhoto is capable of handling my photo database (20+ years of *many* pictures), but Photos is not | |||
I'm sure it has many nice new features :-( | 11:38 | ||
yes, I'm disappointed in Apple | |||
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El_Che | that's a big archive to catalogue again, indeed | 11:43 | |
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lizmat | well, I would understand that it could take a long time to convert | 11:53 | |
but after a week it just sits around doing nothing (0.1% CPU) | 11:54 | ||
so I guess the conversion program gets in some sort of deadlock and never recovers | |||
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[Coke] is reminded to update github.com/coke/scripts/blob/master/sw_hist so he can double check and say "I'm only on 11.x, sorry" | 12:06 | ||
I was one of several people pondering getting an updated mac, but it's a huge investment cost and I'm not feeling great about it. (liz's story a contributing factor) | 12:07 | ||
lizmat | yeah, for the first time in ~20 years, I'm seriously considering not having an MBP for my next notebook | 12:09 | |
jast | there's a lot of value in using open source software for this kind of thing (if the software in question covers your use case, which isn't always a small "if")... | 12:15 | |
lizmat | jast: yes, I was going for convenience... | 12:19 | |
if you want something done well, you have to do it yourself :-) | |||
jast | true way too often, unfortunately | ||
andinus | SmokeMachine: that works, thank you :) | ||
[Coke] | lizmat: did you see the new mbp has the notch in the menu bar for the camera (like the 11 model iphone) and things render behind the camera? | 12:21 | |
El_Che | I saw rending beneath | ||
menus and the like | |||
lizmat | no | 12:22 | |
won't be looking at a new notebook until sometime next year anyway | |||
El_Che | my main machine is a linux, but the mac I have for testing stuff is getting slow (air) | 12:24 | |
I thought, let's try to get a mbp 16 | |||
and then I saw the notch | |||
I know it would bother me to no end | 12:25 | ||
ugexe | they must have assumed everyone puts tape there anyway | ||
El_Che | ugexe: lol | ||
twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143...59968?s=20 | 12:31 | ||
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[Coke] | Do brew or macports provide a way to test things out on the new OSes? | 12:39 | |
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Anton Antonov | El_Che — thanks for sharing 🙂 | 12:57 | |
El_Che I tried the jump start from Big Sur partition of my laptop -- worked to a point. I will try jump start using `homebrew` installations. | 13:05 | ||
El_Che I agree the notch on new MacBoo Pros is a deal breaker. | 13:26 | ||
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Nemokosch | being a Mac itself is a deal breaker | 14:29 | |
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melezhik | I've implemented a simple notification system in mybfi - mybf.io/article/Formatting , if use `@user` in comment/reply/review a respect user will get notification via their account on mybfio ... | 18:02 | |
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melezhik | if someone help me to test this, it'd be cool ... thanks | 18:03 | |
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Anton Antonov | I am looking for suitable symbol to represent missing values or not-available values when manipulating datasets. I considered Whatever, but that is too generic (and hints multiple possible interpretations or actions.) Any other suggestions? Should I just make suitable simple classes that inherit from Mu? | 18:49 | |
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lizmat | Nil | 18:54 | |
is what you're looking for | 18:55 | ||
docs.raku.org/type/Nil | |||
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thundergnat | NOTABUG, but certainly LTA; and it confused the heck out of me for about 20 minute before I figured out what was going on. | 19:35 | |
m: say 123.comb.Bag, ' | ', <1 2 3>.Bag, ' | 123.comb.Bag eqv <1 2 3>.Bag? ', 123.comb.Bag eqv <1 2 3>.Bag; | |||
camelia | Bag(1 2 3) | Bag(1 2 3) | 123.comb.Bag eqv <1 2 3>.Bag? False | ||
thundergnat | I wonder if we should mention that on the Bag docs? Or at least in the Traps section? | ||
That wasn't a bug; but I believe that this _is_. | 19:37 | ||
m: say "Wat...\nNegative numbers should never be considered prime, even if the absolute value is!!"; my @n = (0 .. 500); say "{-$_} is prime??" if (-$_).is-prime for @n; | |||
camelia | Wat... Negative numbers should never be considered prime, even if the absolute value is!! -5 is prime?? -17 is prime?? -65 is prime?? -99 is prime?? -107 is prime?? -135 is prime?? -153 is prime?? -185 is prime?? -209 is prime?? … |
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thundergnat | m: say "\nSome negative numbers are considered prime even if the absolute value isn't!!"; say "Negative \"primes\"?? ", my @m = (0...-500).grep: &is-prime; say "Negative {-$_} is prime??" unless (.abs).is-prime for @m; | 19:37 | |
camelia | Some negative numbers are considered prime even if the absolute value isn't!! Negative "primes"?? [-5 -17 -65 -99 -107 -135 -153 -185 -209 -267 -299 -315 -353 -369 -387 -419 -467 -483] Negative 65 is prime?? Negative 99 is prime?? Negative … |
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MasterDuke | thundergnat++ that's my bad | 19:45 | |
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lizmat | m: use nqp; dd nqp::isprime_I(-5) # underlying issue | 19:47 | |
camelia | 1 | ||
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lizmat | MasterDuke: should that be fixed in MoarVM or in Rakudo? | 19:47 | |
MasterDuke | i'm testing a moarvm fix now | ||
passes a spectest | 19:48 | ||
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thundergnat | Should I file an issue? Seems like you already have a fix in progress. | 19:53 | |
MasterDuke | github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/pull/1587 | 19:54 | |
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Anton Antonov | @lizmat I will try Nil -- thanks! | 20:56 | |
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Nemokosch | I don't think negative primes would be a problem per se, there are pretty sensible definitions for that | 21:27 | |
although -65 or -99 shouldn't be prime numbers under any circumstances | |||
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[Coke] | (file a bug for negative prime) I think there should be a bug, yah. Then if someone finds the issue in a pre-released version, they can see it's fixed in a future release. | 22:52 | |
and we can refer to the bug in the commit message as well. | |||
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