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SmokeMachine m: use Test; my $*a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { await start { is $*a, 42 } } # should this work? 02:21
camelia not ok 1 -
# Failed test at <tmp> line 1
# expected: '42'
# got: (Failure)
SmokeMachine m: use Test; my $*a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { is $*a, 42 } 02:22
camelia ok 1 -
SmokeMachine m: use Test; my $*a = 42; await start { is $*a, 42 } 02:23
camelia ok 1 -
SmokeMachine why it's ok with whenever, it's on on a Promise but when doing both that breaks?
Voldenet m: my $b; my $*a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { await start { $b = $*a } }; 02:28
rip 02:29
camelia (timeout)
Voldenet when you don't do this assignment, however 02:30
m: my $b; my $*a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { await start { } };
camelia ( no output )
SmokeMachine m: my $*a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { await start { say $*a } }; 02:31
camelia A react block:
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

Died because of the exception:
An operation first awaited:
in block at <tmp> line 1

Died with the exception:
Dynamic variable $*a not found
in block …		 02:32
SmokeMachine m: my $a = 42; react whenever Promise.in: 1 { await start { say $a } }; # not dyn
camelia 42
Voldenet m: use Test; my $*a = 42; await start { await start { is $*a, 42 } }; 02:39
camelia not ok 1 -
# Failed test at <tmp> line 1
# expected: '42'
# got: (Failure)
Voldenet m: use Test; my $*a = 42; await start { is $*a, 42 };
camelia ok 1 -
SmokeMachine It seems a bug to me... does it seem a but to you, Voldenet ? 02:41
Voldenet I bet it can be explained, but it doesn't seem fine at all 02:42
SmokeMachine github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/4654 02:51
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[Coke] . 04:02
frost Hello all 04:10
The question is about zef, can I set DefaultCUR as a custom path in the config.json? 04:11
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Voldenet m: use Test; my $*a = 42; await start { await start { is $*a, 42 } }; 10:22
camelia not ok 1 -
# Failed test at <tmp> line 1
# expected: '42'
# got: (Failure)
Voldenet m: $*SCHEDULER = CurrentThreadScheduler; use Test; my $*a = 42; await start { await start { is $*a, 42 } };
camelia ok 1 -
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Xliff_ Here's a sample of what you can now do with Raku. Please note the full script for this example on the right. 10:43
vimeo.com/650780944
Thank YOU, #rakyu
:P # raku
github.com/Xliff/p6-GEGL 10:44
timo "Video is not rated. Log in to watch." :\ 10:46
vimeo forgot what video i wanted to watch when i created an account with "sign in with google" 10:47
Xliff_ LOL 10:48
Let me see if I can rate it.
timo the slow / abrupt movement of the grid makes it look like it's stuttering :D 10:49
Xliff_ Yeah. Interpolation is float, but the property is int. 10:50
timo just hvae the grid twice and fade opacity between one step and the next perhaps :D 10:52
Xliff_ Perhaps. That is a whole different level of complexity.
Probably be easier to modify gegl:grid to use a float.
Then again... probably not 10:53
timo couldn't really read the code on the video, so no clue how gegl actually works 10:54
Xliff_ github.com/Xliff/p6-GEGL/blob/main/t/spiral.t 10:56
timo ha, that wasn't there when last i looked :D
phogg Should probably link to the source in the description (or a comment) 10:58
Xliff_ timo: Good idea. Busy fixing a snack. Will add that when I'm done. 11:06
You can get an operation list, here: gegl.org/operations/
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_Xliff vimeo.com/650787185 11:31
This one is rated, so should be viewable without a login.
timo the fractal zoomer is just a node implemented inside of gegl itself? 11:38
_Xliff Yes. 11:40
Actually, it's a fully functional explorer. 11:41
Have to work on getting better colors out of it, though.
timo so gegl has a concept of user input as well? 11:48
_Xliff Hmmm... what do you mean? 11:53
timo like, i imagine a fully functional explorer you'd control with the mouse or something? 11:55
_Xliff Yes. You can accomplish that using GTK.
There's a project out there called GEGL-Gtk. It's written for GTK2, but shouldn't be hard to convert to GTK3. 11:56
I'm pretty sure there's an easier route, though.
timo ah, ok
_Xliff It's all GLib
timo how easy is it to hook a gegl renderer up to SDL's windowing and opengl/vulkan context management? 11:57
_Xliff gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gegl-gtk
Don't know. Haven't looked that far yet. Project is only 10 days old. :)
gegl.org/operations/gegl-sdl2-display.html 11:58
timo oh that's fun 12:00
_Xliff =)
timo looks like it takes control of the window completely or something like that?
_Xliff Actually, I think it just controls the content. SDL still controls the window. 12:01
timo right, i meant more like you can't pass something from SDL to use or get the thing from gegl to use your own sdl stuff with?
not that important :)
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_Xliff Actually, you should be able tgo. 12:02
You'd use the SDL buffer as an input. 12:03
gegl.org/operations/gegl-load.html 12:04
gegl.org/operations/gegl-pixbuf.html
gegl.org/operations/gegl-buffer-source.html 12:05
So convert SDL buffer to one of those and you should be good.
Set your chain up to do processing in the middle and then output to gegl:sdl2-display 12:06
Yet another way to do user input, too.
Let SDL handle it. ;)
timo: Mind taking a gander at github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/4655? 12:07
nine is working on it, but more eyes couldn't hurt. That's the last thing killing the weekly timings since new-disp landed. 12:08
timo don't really have the opportunity to try to reproduce it, but when nine catches it in the rr, i shall have a look or two
gfldex lolibloggedalittle: gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/11/28/leaky-rakudo/ 12:09
timo oh, gfldex, if you had zstd available at moarvm build time, you'll be using the newer heap snapshot format that's already compressed 12:10
you can see which format it is from the first 16 bytes of the file 12:13
_Xliff What is `rr`? Rakudo Repository? 12:16
timo rr is mozilla's time traveling debugger / recorder and replay tool 12:17
i've been the one who keeps shouting "have you tried rr" for perhaps a year or so :P 12:18
_Xliff Huh. Is it easy to set up? 12:27
frost To be honest, I'm confused about the zef config😫 12:37
in the README file, it said that the config.json in  $*HOME/.zef/config.json will override the default config.json 12:39
Most cases
actually, that path is not working 12:40
The right path is $*HOME/.config/zef/config.json 12:41
Xliff README might need updating.
You'll have to ask ugexe about that. 12:42
frost Yeah
I think so
Xliff weekly: vimeo.com/650780944, vimeo.com/650787185, github.com/p6-GEGL
notable6 Xliff, Noted! (weekly)
timo if you don't run into any trouble, it's trivial to set up 12:43
`rr record raku -e 'say "hi"'`, then `rr replay`
you land in a regular old gdb but now commands like "reverse-step", "reverse-continue" etc work
Xliff Huh... OK 12:44
timo also compatible with that browser-based gdb frontend, gdbgui i think it's called?
nine timo: I think you've advertised rr a lot longer than just a year ;) And good thing you did that, too 13:00
timo time is relative, especially when you rr
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gfldex timo: Am I looking for "MoarHeapDumpv002"? 13:02
timo ok that format will benefit from compression, and also be slower to load in the heap dump explorer 13:04
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qorg11 will there ever be a fork() function in raku? 15:08
tbrowder or goto (pls) 15:09
ah, well, getting along without it so far ;-D 15:10
qorg11 I don't usually use goto
tbrowder i see need for it less and less since i don't have it. forgetting fortran was easy! 15:11
qorg11 Well, you can call fork() using NativeCall 15:20
`sub fork( --> int32) is native("c",v6) {*}`
Skarsnik hm, still no luck getting moar with debug symbols :( 15:23
goto is useful (for me) to replace exception or when you have some clean up to do before exiting a function. The last part you can probably do with the LEAVE phaser or don't worry at all since you don't have to free memory 15:24
Xliff Skarsnik: Are you using --moar-option="--debug" when you invoke Configuree.pl? 15:29
s/eee/
Skarsnik yes
Xliff Huh.
Skarsnik perl Configure.pl --gen-moar --moar-option='--optimize=0 --debug=3 -g' --gen-nqp --backends=moar --prefix=/home/skarsnik/raku/ && make && make install 15:33
ugexe qorg11: there is nqp::fork() although unless you really know whats going on internally re threadpool, mutxes, etc you're going have a bad time 15:34
Xliff Skarsnik: Try with just --debug 15:43
Skarsnik I think that never rebuild moar actually 15:44
Xliff Sounds about right.
--force-rebuild
./Configure.pl --gen-moar --force-rebuild --moar-option="--debug" # Works for me.... ymv
s/ymv/ymmv/ 15:45
Skarsnik aaah 15:51
finall xD
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Skarsnik gist.github.com/Skarsnik/611d0211f...7c430da149 15:54
nine Skarsnik: What does `p *key` say? 16:19
Skarsnik (gdb) p *key 16:23
$1 = {common = {header = {sc_forward_u = {forwarder = 0x0, sc = {sc_idx = 0, idx = 0}, st = 0x0}, owner = 0,
flags1 = 0 '\000', flags2 = 0 '\000', size = 0}, st = 0x0}, body = {storage = {blob_32 = 0x0, blob_ascii = 0x0,
blob_8 = 0x0, strands = 0x0, any = 0x0}, storage_type = 0, num_strands = 0, num_graphs = 0,
cached_hash_code = 0}}
(gdb) 16:24
This code is annoying, it does not always merge everything :( (sometime it merge 1 struct and sometime 2} 16:25
when it does not crash x)
nine That's a lot of 0es for a string 16:28
Skarsnik I think it try to use a deleted key (that why I need to test for ~~ Struct since I got Any when it's something I removed) 16:30
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nine That alone doesn't explain it. MoarVM is not allowed to segfault just because you're trying to access a deleted hash entry. 16:36
Skarsnik I pushed the code on github.com/Skarsnik/gptrixie. I am using the MQTTProperties.h from github.com/eclipse/paho.mqtt.c .Just run gptrixie like this for example gptrixie --structs --castxml=c99 tmp/paho.mqtt.c/src/MQTTProperties.h 16:38
Time to do something else x)
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Ergo444 m: say now;say ^1000000 .race.grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now 19:03
camelia Instant:1638126262.303614874
78498
Instant:1638126263.255051417
Ergo444 m: say now;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now 19:04
camelia Instant:1638126281.673599486
78498
Instant:1638126282.05227383
Ergo444 m: $t= now;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now-$t
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$t' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$t= now;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime)
Ergo444 m: my $t= now;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now-$t 19:05
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
now used at line 1. Did you mean 'HOW', 'not'?
Ergo444 m: my $t= now();say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now()-$t
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
now used at line 1. Did you mean 'not', 'HOW'?
Ergo444 m: my $t= now.Int;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now.Int-$t 19:06
camelia 78498
0
Ergo444 m: my $t= now.Num;say ^1000000 .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now.Num-$t
camelia 78498
0.3817102909088135
Ergo444 m: my $t= now.Num;say ^1000000 .race .grep(*.is-prime) .elems;say now.Num-$t 19:07
camelia 78498
0.6764755249023438
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gfldex m: say ^1000000 .race .grep(*.is-prime) .elems; say now - BEGIN now; 19:40
camelia 78498
0.893027857
gfldex Ergo444: ^^^ we got phasers for that 19:41
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xinming releasable6: status 20:47
releasable6 xinming, Next release in ≈5 days and ≈22 hours. 4 blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
xinming, Details: gist.github.com/e83d7e1f4be2e33b2e...418dc02eb0
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patrickb qorg11: There is a blog post about Form in Rakudo: brrt-to-the-future.blogspot.com/201...2.html?m=1 21:23
tellable6 2021-11-27T03:43:46Z #raku-dev <andinus> patrickb: ah i see, then i should be able to manage releases after this december's release
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SmokeMachine Are there still available slots for the advent calendar? 22:03
[Coke] github.com/Raku/advent/blob/master...authors.md 22:06
Looks like, yes.
I can add an entry for you if you like.
SmokeMachine I’m still not sure if I’ll have enough time to finish my post… :( 22:16
[Coke] I will add you as a potential-don't-count-on-me so someone can find you later to ask, OK? 22:25
... nevermind, that's too much pressure. 22:26
japhb Xliff: You probably figured this out in the ensuing two days, but if not ... For the Mandelbrot coordinates I posted, I believe to convert for the GEGL explorer: real -> x, imaginary -> y 22:39
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SmokeMachine [Coke]: I think I’m almost finishing it… but I’ll really need someone to review/price read it… my English is already not good and I’m writing that on my cellphone. So it will probably be even worse… 22:44
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gfldex SmokeMachine: Neither is my English. Yet, I never got hurt by hitting the publish button. They make those from extra soft rubber. :) 22:46
I would go so far to say: A good post in bad English is better then a bad post is good English. 22:48
SmokeMachine What about a bad post in bad English? 22:52
timo if you abandon your post i will have your cord mashalled 22:57
moon-child SmokeMachine: only way to make anything better is practice 23:04
if you make a bad post in bad english, the next post you write will be better and better written
SmokeMachine I’ve already done 2 other bad posts in bad English for advent calendar… this one should be going a bit better… but it seems not to be the case… :( 23:06
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SmokeMachine I think it’s done… would someone one like to review/prof read? 23:22
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Xliff japhb: Did you try it out? 23:37
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