japhb apogee_ntv, Voldenet: Terminal::Capabilities has an autodetection (via env vars) module that has been filled out based on my manual testing (using Terminal::Tests to produce test screens). At this point, Terminal::Capabilities::Autodetect should properly lower-bound the capabilities of most terminals. 00:44
It does *not* yet detect sixel and kitty, because I haven't written test screens in Terminal::Tests for either of those protocols yet.
It does however account for a lot of bugs in things that "should just work by now" but don't. 00:48
As well as things that terminals advertise but then don't actually do. 00:49
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melezhik. Voldenet: what’s that ? 05:11
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sp1983 o/ if anyone fancy to try out dtap give me a shout , something could be used for infra or security audit of Linux servers 05:13
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sp1983 AI gave me alternative acronym to DTAP - DTAP (Development, Test, Acceptance, Production) 05:20
Interesting
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sp1983 . 06:47
Voldanet: I brought dsci web site back - deadsimpleci.sparrowhub.io 06:48
finally renewed all my lets encrypt certs , )) 06:54
Selkie dsci looks clean and interesting for me - github.com/melezhik/Selkie/tree/master/.dsci 07:01
^^ apogee_ntv )) 07:02
apogee_ntv: ^^ ))
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melezhik. I have got Raku compile error for not cursive::native for alpine - dsci-runner.sparrowhub.io/report/ui...toer.35902 09:29
Looks like cause of old Raku ? 2025.11 09:32
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sp1983 oh, looks like it only applies to windows, right ? 09:58
removed this bit from linux pipeline them 10:01
then
oh, it's still fetched by dependencies - dsci-runner.sparrowhub.io/report/ui...toer.35902 10:13
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sp1983 I guess it's just old Raku 10:47
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switching build to ubuntu where Raku is fresh enough
apogee_ntv sp1983: Very interesting. Try Notcurses::Native if you want a complex example :D 10:51
CI on that is brutal.
The release binaries flow especially
sp1983 yeah, I am still trying to make it work for at least CI part )
apogee_ntv Unfortunate downside of working with C libs a lot, cross-platform CI is a pain 10:53
sp1983 but overall I find ( self promotion speech haha )) ) the dsci flow is more clear vs gh actions )
yep, will see how I can work it around in dsci
cause in this case these are just a bash scripts that can be modified in simple way
apogee_ntv A lot of it is yeah, bash scripts. 10:55
I dont love github actions but they make the matrix very visible
I think my runners all use 2026.03 10:59
I need to bump them really
sp1983 yeah - matrix is something I am going to implement in dsci in the future 11:02
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El_Che_ tbrowder: do it with zef? 16:08
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tbrowder El_Che_: ok, i’ll try it 20:05
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Voldenet melezhik: this tests port 8080 and has "port 80" in the desc, it's minor github.com/melezhik/doubletap/blob...-server.sh 22:24
Evil-Bob hey, I'm brand new to Raku. having fun learning by making a terminal Game of life sym. Is there a way to avoid bulding a string to print to the screen? right now I'm bulding a string that only updates the "cells" when they change, which has dramatically sped up the rendering? 23:11
ugexe github.com/gugod/bin/blob/master/g...minal.raku uses Terminal::Print 23:17
Evil-Bob I'll check it out! thanks 23:18
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