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lucs I truly appreciate the help I get from people here to my usually simple questions. 14:50
But for more involved stuff, where would you recommend I go?: Stack Overflow, Reddit, some mailing list?
disbot <antononcube> LLMs. 14:52
lucs No thanks.
But thanks anyway :)
disbot <antononcube> Ok. Damn! I was looking for an excuse to finish an AI-skill that peruses the docs.raku.org for answers... 14:53
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disbot <antononcube> That should be done anyway -- many/most systems for technical computations have those kind of enhancements. 14:54
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tbrowder antononcube: how would such a thing be better than asking google 16:27
i use it all the time with pretty good results 16:29
or as i tell friends “ask dr google” 16:31
disbot <antononcube> Yes, I agree "Google knows" Raku well enough. Do you trust those directions, though? Also, very often I want to have concrete documentation page and section or paragraph that describe what I am asking for (about Raku language). 16:34
refactus another resource I've found valuable at times is the search feature on this channel's log 16:36
disbot <antononcube> Another important reason is to use (relatively) small locally run models. I can force them to understand better the relevant Raku documentation and form an answer on a smaller (narrower) amount of text.
<antononcube> The AI-agent skill I have mind is primarily retrieving relevant pages of docs.raku.org. (Then those can be used in whatever workflows.) 16:37
lizmat
.oO( too bad you still need humans to write documentation for LLMs to rip )
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tbrowder can’t argue about. finding authoritative docs for publication. but as lizmat is saying i think ai has skipped the old stuff where we are expected to credit our sources for our published stuff 16:58
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tbrowder pres j f kennedy’s famous speech (ask not what your country…) was not truly original, his speech writer took it from a much earlier speech by us army general omar n bradley. 17:10
that sentence that is 17:11
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disbot <antononcube> > Ask not what can LLMs do for you, but what can you for the LLMs. … I guess. 17:38
<antononcube> > Ask not what can LLMs do for you, but what can you do for the LLMs. … I guess. 17:39
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tbrowder any idea how ai avoids copyright infringement? 18:00
consulting my lawyer son… 18:05
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disbot <antononcube> Everything LLMs is publicly available. Similar case were already brought up against Google. There is (almost) 1-to-1 correspondence. 18:25
<antononcube> Everything LLMs are trained with is publicly available. Similar case were already brought up against Google. There is (almost) 1-to-1 correspondence. 18:27
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tbrowder ok, good to know, thanks 19:02
my son says for there’s a suit by New York Times against one of the AI firms for copying all their data. 19:39
japhb tbrowder: As your lawyer son may have already told you: This whole area of regulation and jurisprudence is in heavy flux. Worldwide things are changing month to month. 19:40
(Of course, how individuals, projects, and corporations respond to that flux is all over the map as well.) 19:41
tbrowder yep, he did. he also said he expected ai users to copyright artistic things they create. 19:44
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disbot <scullucs> Turns out I tried Claude (first time) and it solved my problem perfectly 🙂 20:06
japhb As a side note on the searching question, I believe Google recently publicly said something along the lines of "You can't use Google *without* using AI at this point." 20:12
So Google "instead of" an LLM isn't really a thing, I don't think.
japhb remembers when it was purely algorithmic ... sigh. 20:13
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tbrowder japhb: think you are correct. i've been referring to "him" as "dr google" for some time now. 20:29
japhb nod
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