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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| Anton Antonov | @tonyo Worked with a simple fez. Just now: raku.land/zef:antononcube/WWW::MermaidInk | 01:37 | |
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| Xliff | m: sub a { my $a = 0; $a ?? 42 }; | 08:21 | |
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Unexpected closing bracket at <tmp>:1 ------> sub a { my $a = 0; $a ?? 42 ⏏}; |
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| Xliff | ^^ This looks to be LTA - Error should be... | ||
| m: 0 ?? 1 | |||
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Confused: Found ?? but no !! at <tmp>:1 ------> 30 ?? 1⏏<EOL> |
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| Xliff | ^^ lizmat MasterDuke [Coke] | 08:22 | |
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| Xliff | .tell lizmat Question for you -- I have utility that I am writing and it would be great if I could use String::Utils::root if String::Utils is detected. I've tried this - 'require ::("String::Utils"); ::("&root").^name.say;' with no luck. What would you suggest? Thanks! | 08:44 | |
| tellable6 | Xliff, I'll pass your message to lizmat | ||
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| lizmat | .tell Xliff why not rip out the code of sub root from String::Utils ? | 08:59 | |
| tellable6 | lizmat, I'll pass your message to Xliff | ||
| lizmat | it's only 30 lines: you might need to stick a "use nqp" in it though :-) | ||
| tellable6 | hey lizmat, you have a message: gist.github.com/df683fe5a6f3088517...ec70573a6a | 09:00 | |
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| tbrowder__ | .seen jubilatious | 09:55 | |
| tellable6 | tbrowder__, I haven't seen jubilatious around | ||
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| tbrowder__ | .seen jubilatious1 | 10:30 | |
| tellable6 | tbrowder__, I haven't seen jubilatious1 around | ||
| lizmat clickbaits rakudoweekly.blog/2023/04/17/2023-...udent-win/ | 10:31 | ||
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| Geth | ecosystem: Demayl++ created pull request #617: Add Terminal::Size to the ecosystem |
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| ecosystem/main: 624be4377c | Demayl++ | META.list Add Terminal::Size to the ecosystem |
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| ecosystem/main: aa272a5e67 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Merge pull request #617 from Demayl/master Add Terminal::Size to the ecosystem |
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| guifa | Xliff: are you using the FQN? | 12:22 | |
| tellable6 | guifa, I'll pass your message to Xliff | ||
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| lucs | Xliff: What do you mean by ⌊$a ?? 42⌉? | 12:41 | |
| tellable6 | lucs, I'll pass your message to Xliff | ||
| lizmat | lucs: it was about the error message *that* produced | 12:44 | |
| lucs | Oh, I see, thanks. | ||
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| rf | Morning folks | 14:03 | |
| Anton Antonov | @rf Hi! As far as I know, you did not make a Raku last weekend. Again. | 14:10 | |
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| guifa | Is there any way for slang writing to namespace? NQPMatch and Match aren't compatible | 14:12 | |
| rf | Yeah you are right Anton, soon haha | 14:17 | |
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| vrurg | guifa: what do you mean? | 14:40 | |
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| guifa | vrurg: I'll try to get a MWE / golfed version tonight, off to $day-job now | 14:57 | |
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| [Coke] | m: my @a=<5 34 2 4>; dd @a.map(+*).sort({$^a <= $^b}) | 15:22 | |
| camelia | (34, 5, 4, 2).Seq | ||
| [Coke] | Can someone explain why it's order high to low there? I would have expected low to high | 15:24 | |
| Nemokosch | I think it's because sort takes a comparator which a mere <= isn't. A comparator should produce More, Less or Same | 15:44 | |
| m: my @a=<5 34 2 4>.map(+*); say @a[0] <= @a[1]; say Order(@a[0] <= @a[1]); | 15:46 | ||
| Raku eval | True Exit code: 1 No value 'True' found in enum Order in block <unit> at main.raku line 1 | ||
| Nemokosch | aalmoost | ||
| m: my @a=<5 34 2 4>.map(+*); say @a[0] <= @a[1]; say (@a[0] <= @a[1]).Order; | |||
| Raku eval | True More | ||
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| lizmat | m: my @a=<5 34 2 4>; dd @a.map(+*).sort({$^a <=> $^b}) | 16:00 | |
| camelia | (2, 4, 5, 34).Seq | ||
| lizmat | m: my @a=<5 34 2 4>; dd @a.map(+*).sort({$^b <=> $^a}) | ||
| camelia | (34, 5, 4, 2).Seq | ||
| tonyo | guifa: you are definitely an edge case haha, taking a look at that issue today | 16:04 | |
| [Coke] | Thank you. will give a better example in the docs. | 16:07 | |
| (for sort) | |||
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| [Coke] | ... or I'll just read the docs more. | 17:01 | |
| p6steve | m: <5 34 2 4>.sort.reverse.say | 17:04 | |
| Raku eval | (34 5 4 2) | ||
| p6steve | another way ;-) | ||
| no need to coerce to Num with '+' since sort (cmp) "compares numbers with number semantics" | 17:06 | ||
| Nemokosch | keep in mind that the elements here are a bit of a corner case: they are allomorphs | 17:16 | |
| I think their numeric nature will have precedence but it's a bit tricky because something else might deduce them to be strings | 17:17 | ||
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| [Coke] | p6steve, I did need the sort comparator function, I just was starting with the simplest one. | 17:40 | |
| moritz | m: say "aa" ~~ /$<start>=<.alpha> $<start>/ | 17:58 | |
| camelia | ｢aa｣ start => ｢a｣ |
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| moritz | m: say "aa" ~~ /$<start>=<alpha> $<start>/ | ||
| camelia | Nil | ||
| moritz | bug or unknown-to-me feature? | ||
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| moritz | I've opened github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5248 for that, assuming it's a bug | 18:07 | |
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| [Coke] | gist.github.com/coke/a018706e1abb7...6610adfd16 - weird fetch FAIL when trying to install cro locally | 19:23 | |
| it's not that dep, specifically, getting that on everything I try to install. | 19:26 | ||
| ah, might be a local cert issue (works fine in the browser) | 19:29 | ||
| ugexe | you could test that theory by seeing if `zef install 360.zef.pm/C/RO/CRO/b2222c623bcc77...58.tar.gz` fails but `zef install 360.zef.pm/C/RO/CRO/b2222c623bcc778...58.tar.gz` installs | 19:32 | |
| oh maybe not | |||
| i thought there was non-https urls as well | |||
| ah there is, there was just a trailing ` in the clickable link of my irc client | 19:33 | ||
| so yeah you should be able to run those two commands and see if one works and one doesnt | |||
| [Coke] | "something went wrong extracting .... Win32::Registry | 19:34 | |
| zef used to work fine on this windows box, wonder what happened. :| | |||
| [Coke] updates git bash on the hope it also updates curl and default certs. | 19:42 | ||
| ugexe | i'm not sure if zef will use that curl or not | 19:43 | |
| modern windows comes with a version of curl now | 19:44 | ||
| ok to answer that question zef will try to use `curl.exe --help` first, and if that fails it will try `curl --help`. it picks how it invokes its curl that way | 19:45 | ||
| the fun part is on modern windows with the git bash stuff installed a person will have 3 curls. 1) a curl.exe included in modern versions of windows 2) a curl.exe included with the git bash tools 3) a curl command that is just a powershell around a simple fetcher but doesn't emulate the curl cli api at all | 19:49 | ||
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| [Coke] | installing an updated git bash I must have picked a weird option because it "lost" my installed raku and 'raku -version' isn't using utf8 | 20:06 | |
| and now that I resolved the path, the curl is still failing. Wondering if it was a dayjob windows update that updated local certs unhelpfully | 20:07 | ||
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| Xliff | \o | 21:38 | |
| tellable6 | 2023-04-18T08:59:10Z #raku <lizmat> Xliff why not rip out the code of sub root from String::Utils ? | ||
| 2023-04-18T12:22:34Z #raku <guifa> Xliff: are you using the FQN? | |||
| 2023-04-18T12:41:40Z #raku <lucs> Xliff: What do you mean by ⌊$a ?? 42⌉? | |||
| Xliff | guifa: I was using the FQN, yes. It still didn't work. Reason: That routine is in a "my" scope and exported via EXPORT() | 21:40 | |
| And I don't think I can get access to EXPORT | |||
| m: sub a { }; &a.^methods.map( *.name ).grep( *.starts-with("s") ).say | 21:46 | ||
| camelia | (soft set_op_props set_why signature static_id) | ||
| p6steve | I think that (1,4,3).sort will work ....beginner level "some integers can be sorted", expert level "these literals are InStr Allomorphs that will auto numify so that cmp goes to <=> and then that coerces its arguments to Int" | 21:47 | |
| m: (1,4,3).sort.say | |||
| Raku eval | (1 3 4) | ||
| Xliff | Do Sub objects expose the type of scope they've been declared as? | 21:48 | |
| m: my sub a { }; our sub b { }; | |||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| Xliff | ^ Is there a method that I can use that can tell me the scope of a() and b()? | 21:49 | |
| [ 'our' vs 'my' ] | |||
| .tell lizmat A simple and obvious soluition. Thanks! | 21:54 | ||
| tellable6 | Xliff, I'll pass your message to lizmat | ||
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| Nemokosch | what I meant is | 21:58 | |
| m: dd (1, 4, 3); dd <1 4 3> | 21:59 | ||
| Raku eval | (1, 4, 3) (IntStr.new(1, "1"), IntStr.new(4, "4"), IntStr.new(3, "3")) | ||
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