[Coke] I don't think we can get at unicode 1 names from raku... checking... 00:02
(I had started with unicode 1 name but didn't see how to get it then got sucked into the alias rabbit hole) 00:05
m: # XXXX: Unicode_1_Name is not used yet; we should make sure 00:07
# it ends up in some data structure eventually
evalable6
[Coke] ^^ from nqp/MoarVM/tools/ucd2c.pl
ugexe++
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apogee_ntv Uploaded ComfyUI::API and HuggingFace::API (partial implementation) 00:13
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[Coke] windows question - is there any way to write a raku script so that it uses the shebang on non-windows, and is run with raku from powershell? (I have to explicitly run raku a/b.raku for this project on windows, and am annoyed) 13:03
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patrickb raku.land/zef:patrickb/Devel::Exec...rGenerator 13:14
[Coke]: ^ this is a possible solution
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patrickb you can set the program to run an extension with on Windows. but it's fragile and a pain to set up. 13:22
[Coke] I'm recommending rakubrew for installs for folks using windows at $dayjob, so yah, that's hard to use the .extension trick on 13:28
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apogee_ntv You get to use Raku at dayjob? 13:38
Envious
disbot2 <antononcube> You do not need tell co-workers that you use Raku at your day job. 13:56
ugexe lots of jobs require you use a list of known programs/software so security teams can reason about attack surface 14:06
like even if a job is ok with you using raku, at many places you'd still need to at least have "raku" on a list of somewhere
which implies telling at least one co-worker 14:07
"Over the last few months, we have stopped getting AI slop security reports in the curl project," said Daniel Stenberg, founder and lead developer of curl, in a social media post. "They're gone. Instead, we get an ever-increasing amount of really good security reports, almost all done with the help of AI." 14:13
this is kind of interesting, as in the past curl has been used as an example of where llms were wasting peoples time 14:14
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ugexe then again stuff like "575 Pull Requests in Three Weeks: What Happens When AI Meets CPAN Maintenance" isn't going to help convince skeptics 14:27
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timo I might be more agreeable to using LLMs to hunt for bugs, as long as I don't have to read raw LLM output in tickets 14:35
disbot2 <antononcube> That was my last payed project -- working on a AI-agent that helps finding the root causes of "software defects." 14:36
<antononcube> I was close to installing Raku at Windows on work-computer for that project, BTW. 14:37
<antononcube> Again, that Raku would have been just for my own consumption / usage. 14:38
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ugexe if you're a contractor, yeah sure its a bit easier. but even then, and moreso for non-contractors, what you are allowed to install on your work computer isn't up to you in the moment 14:45
if your computer can access e.g. user data for instance they need to show some measure of compliance against exfiltration of that data
practically speaking i can install whatever i want on my work computer and nothing technically stops me in the moment. but i'm not supposed to do that, i'm supposed to get it cleared if it isn't already 14:47
[Coke] (raku at work) right, I needed to get approval for raku and the artistic 2.0 license specifically. 15:02
disbot2 <antononcube> More or less, same here -- I have in mind computers provided by the client. Permissions are needed, of course. But in some cases as "a developer" I have more freedom. 15:06
[Coke] there is also an OSS scanning tool for known CVEs, etc. (there's a legal obligation for OSS code, there's a security obligation) 15:13
there can be differences code running as part of development, part of build, and deployed. (and where it's deployed may matter: front end client facing, backend in a container in your cloud service...) 15:14
I think we're operating under "anything devs or devops use on something that is or is going into production must be cleared" 15:15
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apogee_ntv I am a contractor but I'd be reluctant to pitch building in a lang my clients can't hire for. 15:56
[Coke] In my use case, the usage is all internal. 15:57
... and honestly, is 99% me.
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disbot2 <librasteve> I'm a developer and I have used Raku in most of my projects that need some kind of scripting ... be that data migration, system upgrade scripts (for my use) and so on 16:52
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disbot2 <antononcube> I have mentioned this before -- I consider Raku to be a "secret weapon." (Also, Wolfram Language.) 17:43
<antononcube> Although, Wolfram Language I do get contract jobs the explicitly require it. 17:49
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