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kalkin-- tbrowder: yoou mean this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jes3bD6P0To? 07:06
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kalkin- tbrowder: pod parser from scratch might be a good idea, because it's much more approachable for me, than understanding the whole Grammar.nqp 07:15
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kalkin- tbrowder: after watching the tree-sitter video, I'm not sure if we can use a Perl6 Grammar with tree-sitter like approach. I need more details on what AlexDaniel meant, I couldn't find anything in the history 07:52
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AlexDaniel` hmm? 08:42
what did I say? :) I can probably explain what I meant 08:43
kalkin- > tbrowder: kalkin: did you see reference to the "tree-sitter" streaming gramar parser mentioned i think by AlexDaniel a few weeks ago? 08:55
context is pod parsing
currently it's pretty buggy and there is the idea flowing in the room, to separate it from Grammar.nqp 08:56
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lizmat and another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2019/12/24/2019-...-holidays/ 11:13
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! App::Mi6 (0.3.0) by 03SKAJI 12:04
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chloekek Spreadsheet function: sub löb(@fs) { my @xs = @fs.map({ &^f(@xs) }).lazy; @xs; } 13:02
p6: sub löb(@fs) { my @xs = @fs.map({ &^f(@xs) }).lazy; @xs; }; say löb([ -> @cells { 1 }, -> @cells { 2 }, -> @cells { @cells[0] + @cells[1] } ]).eager
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chloekek The Excel equivalent would be A1=1, B1=2, C1=SUM(A1, B1) 13:03
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chloekek Shorter version: 13:06
sub löb(*@f) { my @r = @f.map({ $_(@r) }).lazy }; .say for löb({ 1 }, { 2 }, { [+] @^s[0, 1] })
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chloekek It suddenly occurred to me that this is a nice technique for implementing type checking of programming languages with both return type inference and mutually recursive functions. 13:13
Just write @definitions Z löb(@definitions.map(&type-check)) to pair each definition with its type. 13:14
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! App::Mi6 (0.3.1) by 03SKAJI 13:21
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tbrowder kalkin: how would you approach the rewrite? i'm thinking first about the start/end points as a grouping of similar behavior, that is, the several, quite different ways we jump into pod and then jump out again as independent chunks. then refactor and refit. 13:48
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Math::Libgsl (0.0.2) by 03FRITH 14:55
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kalkin- tbrowder: I thought I would write a grammar, which parses POD and _only_ POD. So in Grammar.nqp you can just find a piece of pod and call PodGrammar.parse($stuff, actions=>PodActions.new); 15:15
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kalkin- The grammar wouldn't be responsible in case of leading/trailing POD for attaching it to a Code object, because then it needs to be able to parse Perl6 15:16
but may be my approach is to naïve
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tbrowder give it a shot. will you put it where you can take PRs? 16:14
kalkin- I will inform you once I have some code 16:22
I actually wanted to rewrite, cleanup & document my Git::Plumbing module. While documenting it I ended up writing my own POD Renderer and this lead me to finding a bunch of weird stuff in Pod :D 16:23
But the Pod::Renderer ( a fork of Pod::To::Pager, the author seems to abandoned it, I tried conctacting him), is coming along very well. Because I'm using it while writing POD 16:25
Long story short, once I finish up with Git::Plumbing and release it, I will start working on a Pod Grammar.
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chloekek How does Inline::Perl5 cope with Raku threads? 20:12
I want to deploy a Cro::HTTP app that uses it but I’m scared my server gets owned due to a data race.
chloekek should stop using Inline::Perl5 just for Digest::SHA.
Grinnz perhaps you could nativecall to github.com/libtom/libtomcrypt ? 20:15
chloekek I already have a dependency on OpenSSL through Cro::HTTP so I’d probably use that. 20:16
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chloekek Something funny happened with Cro::HTTP 0.7.6. :) 20:30
It has 0 dependencies and the tag list is ["Choose me!"]. 20:31
All other versions are more descriptive.
Ah, license, not tag list.
sena_kun chloekek: that was an unhappy accident. :S 20:42
chloekek Oh. :( 20:51
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chloekek Why do functions like encode take a string with the encoding name, rather than some object that does encoding? 21:52
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guifa2 chloekek: it's probably on a principle of keeping things simpler for the user. Internally it does a look up based on the encoding name 22:35
tellable6 2019-12-22T16:21:05Z #raku <kalkin-> guifa looking at Grammar.nqp there're two methods for attaching leading/trailing pod. I'm not sure why it's implemented this way
2019-12-22T16:25:02Z #raku <kalkin-> guifa never mind, it's for attaching it the actual code parts
guifa2 But if you notice the way that Str.encode() is defined, it's a multi, so it could be easily later implemented with encode(Str:D $name) or encode(Callable:D &conversion-code) or encode(EncoderRole $encoder) 22:37
[Coke] (string) wonder if we should move that to an enum
guifa2 (you could actually augment it to do that if you wanted)
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guifa2 [Coke]: the problem is that enums can't be extended at runtime, so actually Str works best. Modules can call Encoding::Registry.register() to register names and allomorphs (e.g. 'utf8', 'UTF-8', 'utf-8'), and then when you call .encode<foo>, it uses Encoding::Registry.find('foo') to grab the encoder 23:13
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Tirifto Merry Christmas! (Unless I'm late and the whole community has moved on to celebrating Diwali now. :)) 23:20
guifa2 It's not even the 25th yet for some of us :-) 23:21
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sjn Yeah, merry christmas! 23:23
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Tirifto Ah, perhaps my international information is a bit tangled. Over here (Czech Republic) we regard 24–26th of December as Christmas, but I'm not sure how well that carries over to elsewhere. xP 23:26
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guifa2 is an old fashioned fogie and does Dec 25 to Jan 6th :-) 23:32
Plus despite being in the northern hemisphere, it's was a solid 22 C out today =\
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guifa2 .say for "Merry Christmas", "Feliz Navidad", "Felices fiestes navadieges"  …  "Bom Natal" 23:34
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xkr47 merry christmas! 23:54
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