🦋 Welcome to Raku! raku.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/raku
Set by ChanServ on 14 October 2019.
00:17 brass left 00:18 brass joined 00:23 Sgeo left, Sgeo joined 00:37 |oLa| joined 00:53 xinming joined 00:56 xinming_ left 01:17 kvw_5_ joined 01:20 kvw_5 left 01:27 MasterDuke left 01:50 |Sno| joined 01:52 [Sno] left 02:33 maggotbrain joined 02:50 _jrjsmrtn joined 02:51 __jrjsmrtn__ left 03:39 reach_satori joined 03:53 frost-lab joined 04:02 neshpion left 04:03 neshpion joined 04:15 tinita_ joined 04:20 frost-lab left, CIAvash left, tinita left 04:21 Deej90 joined 04:27 Deej90 left 04:28 frost-lab joined 04:39 CIAvash joined 04:50 neshpion left 04:53 abraxxa left 04:54 abraxxa joined 05:09 parabolize left 05:35 andinus joined
andinus is there a mojoliciuos-like for raku? 05:37
05:38 frost-lab left, softmoth_ left 05:40 frost-lab joined, aluaces left 05:53 abraxxa left 05:55 abraxxa joined 06:00 jmerelo joined 06:02 wamba joined 06:07 stoned75 joined 06:15 aluaces joined 06:36 MasterDuke joined 06:50 domidumont joined 06:53 Sgeo left 06:54 ufobat joined 07:09 aborazmeh joined 07:17 rindolf joined 07:22 wamba left 07:34 aborazmeh left 07:48 dakkar joined 07:54 abraxxa left 07:55 wamba joined 07:57 abraxxa joined 08:02 patrickb joined 08:05 pecastro joined 08:06 patrickb left
El_Che Cro should be the closest 08:07
08:32 tinita_ is now known as tinita 08:51 Altai-man_ left 08:53 sena_kun joined 09:49 epony left
rindolf hi all! what happened to TimToady ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall )? 09:52
10:00 frost-lab left 10:03 frost-lab joined
Altreus what do you mean? 10:11
10:12 parv left
Altreus ugexe: I was hoping to do both :D 10:12
10:17 epony joined 10:59 cgfbee left
moritz_ rindolf: I get the impression he mostly moved on from being the Perl/Raku BDFL 11:05
rindolf moritz_: ah 11:06
moritz_: what is he up to now? 11:07
moritz_ rindolf: I don't know. I try not to stalk my heros, and he hasn't come here and told us
rindolf moritz_: stalk? is that what you call "caring about"? 11:08
fine, i'll email him
El_Che rindolf: don't take it like that. moritz_ is not attacking you 11:09
moritz_ rindolf: if 5 people do it, it's caring. If 2000 do it, it's stalking. I don't consider myself close enough to Larry to be one of 5 11:10
rindolf email has become unreliable though w all the spam and anti-spam
lizmat FWIW, I don't think Larry reads his email
rindolf moritz_: ok
moritz_ don't let that stop you though, you have to judge for yourself how close you feel
rindolf moritz_: thanks
lizmat: that sucks, but i'll try anyway 11:11
lizmat rindolf: I was not saying you shouldn't try, I was just saying: don't be disappointed if you do not get a response 11:12
rindolf lizmat: ok...
11:15 abraxxa left 11:18 abraxxa joined 11:19 aluaces left, cgfbee joined
lizmat weekly: news.perlfoundation.org/post/commu...march-2021 11:27
notable6 lizmat, Noted! (weekly)
11:34 parv joined
Altreus lizmat: "Suggestion was made to add a 'donate now' button was made 11:35
lizmat yeah, a Raku Foundation site would need to have that working *properly* 11:36
Altreus I was commenting on the repetition of "was made" 11:39
it would appear to be a thinko
11:39 Kaeipi joined 11:40 Kaiepi left 11:45 mowcat joined 12:02 frost-lab left 12:04 mowcat left 12:37 jmerelo left 12:45 APic left 12:46 APic joined
demostanis[m] Which architectures does Rakudo support? 13:18
jdv79 not as many as perl i suspect 13:31
13:32 mahafyi joined
El_Che demostanis[m]: propably the archs where libuv runs 13:33
Altreus OOP *and* functional! 13:39
13:44 APic left 13:51 abraxxa left 13:53 abraxxa joined, APic joined
codesections interesting. It appears that there's some turnover in the technical leadership for our sister language, Perl: perl.topicbox.com/groups/perl-core...f9e069641f 14:03
leont libuv is more about platforms, and less about architectures 14:09
El_Che leont: I am schooled now :)
leont With architectures, the question is more about on which architectures we can jit
demostanis[m] leont: And which are they? 14:12
MasterDuke right now, just x86. we just on arm, but don't jit there (though that has meant less and less for performance as spesh gets more and more capable) 14:13
*run on arm
demostanis[m] What's spesh? 14:19
14:21 Sgeo joined
MasterDuke the moarvm dynamic optimizer that kind of slots inbetween the interpreter and the jit. it optimizes/re-writes the running program based on information it sees, but doesn't generate machine code like the jit does 14:23
jnthn's blog posts are the place to go for more information if curious. 6guts.wordpress.com/ 14:24
parv does anyone have an idea about the size of rakudo + moarvm if everything were statically compiled to the extent possible? 14:26
that would be on amd64 14:27
14:32 ufobat_ joined 14:35 ufobat left 14:39 dogbert11 joined 14:42 dogbert17 left 14:44 tejr left, aluaces joined 14:45 tejr joined 14:51 stoned75_ joined 14:53 parabolize joined 14:54 stoned75 left
lizmat PSA: this week's Rakudo Weekly News will most likely be published on Tuesday this week, due to a planning snafu and other stuff happening 15:06
15:16 mowcat joined 15:27 aluaces left 15:36 APic left 15:43 APic joined 16:05 softmoth_ joined 16:12 mowcat left
sena_kun lizmat, take care! 16:14
lizmat yeah, I am...
just not enough time available due to some unexpected online and offline events 16:15
on top of not having any time after 8pm tonight 16:16
16:33 El_Che left, El_Che joined, aluaces joined 16:39 dakkar left
tonyo vrurg: i need to add some more logging stuff, i'm having trouble replicating the removal problem 16:40
16:48 simcop2387 left 16:50 mahafyi left 17:06 reach_satori left 17:07 abraxxa left 17:08 abraxxa joined
codesections does the `use trace` pragma not work in modules? It works fine in my .raku files, but doesn't seem to have any effect in a .rakumod file 17:11
lizmat I don't think it works with pre-comped files 17:22
maybe add a "no precompilation" or some such ?
"use trace" will actually codegen the tracing into the bytecode 17:23
17:27 domidumont left 17:29 ufobat_ left
codesections lizmat++ thanks, that did the trick. 17:47
18:04 aborazmeh joined 18:09 patrickb joined 18:16 safinaskar joined 18:19 safinaskar left 18:32 patrickb left 18:35 patrickb joined 18:47 APic left 19:02 aborazmeh left 19:10 guifa joined
vrurg tonyo: but I'm not mistaken about 24hr window, am I? 19:20
19:22 patrickb left, kini left, softmoth_ left, krkini joined 19:24 patrickb joined
guifa realized he hadn’t been connected to IRC in a long time. Gives it 25% chance he has a message from tellbot waiting 19:28
75% right!
patrickb guifa: Someone recently (last 4 days or so) asked about the state of the binary grammar project. 19:36
guifa Ah, yeah, Brad posted a long (and great, as always) comment on the original proposal’s gist 19:37
patrickb colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...04-07#l178
guifa Or at least, that’s probably what caused him to go back to look at it at least.
samebchase: I’m pausing work on binary grammars until RakuAST at the moment — I was able to inline things rather nicely, but while I *could* finish it up with embedded code, normal variable interpolation, etc, all of the work would need to be redone for RakuAST 19:39
samebchase: however, if you’ve got any ideas or feedback for the project in general, definitely take a look at gist.github.com/alabamenhu/2fec7a8...4a2ae2f04d 19:40
patrickb++ : thanks for heads up! 19:41
19:45 mowcat joined 19:58 softmoth_ joined
tonyo vrurg: you're not. i found the bug and should be fixed now 20:01
20:19 patrickb left
vrurg tonyo++ 20:25
20:28 abraxxa left, stoned75_ left 20:30 abraxxa joined 20:31 reach_satori joined, stoned75 joined 20:36 b2gills left, b2gills joined 20:42 araujo joined 20:52 tejr left 20:53 tejr joined
tonyo if you want i can remove that manually vrurg - not sure how critical it is 20:56
MasterDuke tonyo: btw, did you see github.com/tony-o/perl6-slang-sql/pull/10? 20:57
vrurg tonyo: not critical. Somehow release tarball included a file from the previous release. Don't think anybody would use it as I published the next release already. 21:00
[Coke] Anyone interested in working on a .NET backend for nqp? Every time I start looking at it I get distracted, or wonder "how the hell can I...". Having someone else to chat with would help both ways. 21:02
21:02 wamba left 21:07 dogbert17 joined 21:09 dogbert11 left 21:22 dogbert11 joined, dogbert11 left 21:23 dogbert11 joined 21:24 dogbert17 left
tonyo vrurg: i'll let it be then - just merged pull/10 21:34
MasterDuke thanks 21:36
21:44 neshpion joined 21:56 dogbert17 joined 21:59 dogbert11 left 22:01 dogbert17 left 22:02 e left, dogbert17 joined, Geth joined 22:04 araujo left 22:05 d1g1ta1 joined 22:07 d1g1ta1 left 22:09 d1g1ta1 joined
tonyo thank you for the pr 22:10
22:14 d1g1ta1 left 22:19 araujo joined, araujo is now known as Guest87551 22:22 stoned75 left 22:34 Guest87551 left 22:35 rindolf left 23:08 Black_Ribbon joined 23:10 gfldex left 23:12 gfldex joined 23:16 simcop2387 joined, simcop2387 left, simcop2387 joined