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| leont | MasterDuke: yeah, :$foo was definitely on my list for my upcoming "small raku features I miss in other languages" blog post | 00:18 | |
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| timotimo | javascript has this | 00:28 | |
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| leont | I didn't know that! | 00:53 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Algorithm::MinMaxHeap (0.13.5) by 03TITSUKI | 04:27 | |
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| JJMerelo | releasable6: status | 07:32 | |
| releasable6 | JJMerelo, Next release in ≈11 hours. There are no known blockers. 143 out of 303 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings) | ||
| JJMerelo, Details: gist.github.com/d73ba9a84a123e4516...95c264dfe0 | |||
| JJMerelo | yay! | ||
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| Geth | doc: a493998a6f | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6 $. method call syntax shorthand works with meta-methods refs #2632 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/operators | ||
| DOC#2632 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/2632 [Hacktoberfest][RFE][big][docs][good first issue][help wanted][new][⚠ Top Priority ⚠] Checklist for 6.d | |||
| JJMerelo | Only 14 to go... | 07:52 | |
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| rustemb | hello! | 09:27 | |
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| grondilu | Hi all. Is there a new recommendation for the file suffix, instead of .p6 ? | 09:58 | |
| Altai-man_ | grondilu, yes, see github.com/Raku/problem-solving/bl...extensions | ||
| grondilu | ok | 10:01 | |
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| JJMerelo | m: say "foo bar" ~~ /^^ "bar" / | 10:59 | |
| camelia | Nil | ||
| JJMerelo | m: say "foo bar" ~~ /^^ \s* "bar" / | ||
| camelia | Nil | ||
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| Geth | doc: gfldex++ created pull request #3487: Roles are not closures but traps |
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| Xliff | \o | 12:22 | |
| gfldex | lolibloggedalittle: gfldex.wordpress.com/2020/06/20/it...ike-a-bug/ | 12:31 | |
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| Xliff | Where are the latest docs on %?RESOURCES | 12:42 | |
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| Xliff | Looks like %?RESOURCES is not working as described here: docs.raku.org/language/modules | 12:46 | |
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| Geth | doc/protecc-example: 89063e1ea2 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6 Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example Closes github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3411 |
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| doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3488: Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example |
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| Altai-man_ | sourceable6, Proc::Async.new('no-such').Bool | 14:09 | |
| sourceable6 | Altai-man_, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9b9d...u.pm6#L105 | ||
| Geth | doc/document-proc-bool: 75f93dbb01 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Proc.pod6 Document Proc.Bool method Proc::Async does not override Bool, so closes github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3397 |
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| AlexDaniel` | sourceable6, Proc::Async.new('no-such').Bool() | ||
| sourceable6 | AlexDaniel`, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9b9d...u.pm6#L107 | ||
| Altai-man_ | sourceable6, Proc.new('no-such').Bool | 14:11 | |
| sourceable6 | Altai-man_, No idea, boss. Can you give me a Code object? Output: Default constructor for 'Proc' only takes named arguments in block <unit> at /tmp/cDLtx4gFeX line 1 | ||
| Altai-man_ | Hmm. | ||
| Ok, cool. | 14:12 | ||
| Geth | doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3489: Document Proc.Bool method |
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| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: f80067e779 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/traits.pod6 Document is-implementation-detail trait |
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| doc/document-is-impl-trait: 14a8a51841 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Code.pod6 Document Code.is-implementation-detail method |
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| Geth | doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3490: Document is impl trait |
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| Geth | doc/document-HAS: c0c642bd97 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6 Index HAS |
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| doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3491: Index HAS |
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| doc: 89063e1ea2 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6 Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example Closes github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3411 |
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| doc: e69681071d | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6 Merge pull request #3488 from Raku/protecc-example Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Lock::Async | ||
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| Geth | doc: 75f93dbb01 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Proc.pod6 Document Proc.Bool method Proc::Async does not override Bool, so closes github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3397 |
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| doc: 48e74e076d | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Proc.pod6 Merge pull request #3489 from Raku/document-proc-bool Document Proc.Bool method |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Proc | ||
| doc: c0c642bd97 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6 Index HAS |
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| doc: eb7d9147fd | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6 Merge pull request #3491 from Raku/document-HAS Index HAS |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/nativecall | ||
| sena_kun | bisectable6, say CORE::.keys.grep(* eq "&DYNAMIC") | 15:37 | |
| bisectable6 | sena_kun, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight | ||
| sena_kun, Output on all releases: gist.github.com/e8805264ae33eee0bb...fcb6a61d56 | |||
| sena_kun, Bisecting by output (old=2020.02.1 new=2020.05.1) because on both starting points the exit code is 0 | |||
| sena_kun, bisect log: gist.github.com/47b03c0abe8db09981...b59886afe3 | 15:38 | ||
| sena_kun, (2020-03-21) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0c...1389dc69e2 | |||
| sena_kun, Output on all releases and bisected commits: gist.github.com/e6960ef87ecda42978...e6fc96dc6e | |||
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| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: 1ea73e3572 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/traits.pod6 Extend explanation |
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| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: c48e17e7d4 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Code.pod6 Fix grammar |
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| Geth | doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: 598e0ce2f8 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6 Fix index syntax of pointy block Previously, the search term and category were reversed, which created resulted in a buggy results displayed to the user on search. Use the correct order. |
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| Geth | doc: 598e0ce2f8 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6 Fix index syntax of pointy block Previously, the search term and category were reversed, which created resulted in a buggy results displayed to the user on search. Use the correct order. |
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| doc: fc7f95cf93 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/functions.pod6 Merge pull request #3492 from Raku/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor Fix index syntax of pointy block Probably also with #1410 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/functions | ||
| linkable6 | DOC#1410 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/1410 [big][build][docs][search] Standardize search categories | ||
| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: 6c2b1ad844 | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Code.pod6 Missing word |
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| Geth | doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: 4af921d293 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6 Fix indexing of proceed/succeed Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed, and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content". ALas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content" is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content". To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one. |
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| doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: edca00681f | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6 Fix indexing of proceed/succeed Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed, and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content". Alas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content" is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content". To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one. |
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| sena_kun | releasable6, status | 16:09 | |
| releasable6 | sena_kun, Next release in ≈2 hours. There are no known blockers. 143 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings) | ||
| sena_kun, Details: gist.github.com/75526ee0476edb5615...6d2c7b034f | |||
| Geth | doc: edca00681f | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6 Fix indexing of proceed/succeed Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed, and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content". Alas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content" is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content". To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one. |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/control | ||
| doc: 091974ec2b | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/control.pod6 Merge pull request #3493 from Raku/fix-proceed-to-emptiness Fix indexing of proceed/succeed |
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| [Coke] | so many doc updates since yseterday! | 16:21 | |
| JJMerelo | Yep, We seem to be in a hackathon... | ||
| Keep them coming... | 16:22 | ||
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| Geth | doc: 858fb1ba70 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6 Fix comma and indexing closes #3494 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/nativecall | ||
| DOC#3494 [closed]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3494 [docs] xt/space-after-comma.t failing. | |||
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| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: 2ab502a8cd | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6 Fix index anchor and example message |
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| [Coke] | JJMerelo: getting several aspell test failures right now, all due to Pod::Cache. will look into ripping that out and replacing with the ecosystem version. | 16:36 | |
| ... I know it won't necessarily fix it, but as long as I'm stuck anywya... | |||
| JJMerelo | [Coke] not plug-in compatible, I'm afraid... | ||
| You mean Pod::To::Cached, right? | |||
| And Pod::To::Cached is about to be replaced too, anyway... | 16:37 | ||
| [Coke] | does the final replacement have a repo yet? Can do the work in a branch. | 16:38 | |
| Geth | doc: db90daa7b7 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6 Fix example compilation |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Lock::Async | ||
| JJMerelo | [Coke] github.com/JJ/raku-cache-pod It's very much a work in (not-a-lot-of) progress | 16:39 | |
| sena_kun | [Coke], I would suggest to just skip the second example, because in some cases it will give you a segv for real. | ||
| [Coke] | sena_kun: ? | 16:40 | |
| we're not running the code, we're basically doing "-c" on it. | 16:41 | ||
| JJMerelo: so, I'm stuck, then? ok. I'll leave that alone for now. :( | 16:42 | ||
| sena_kun | Oh, you're right. | ||
| [Coke], sorry for the noise, it was so long ago I worked on this. | |||
| [Coke] | does raku have anything like metacpan.org/pod/File::Flock in the ecosystem? | 16:43 | |
| JJMerelo | [Coke] we will welcome any help... Also Richard Hainsworth is giving it a go... | ||
| [Coke] | sena_kun: no worries! | ||
| JJMerelo | [Coke] I think it's part of the butterfly project, at least the underlying system support? | 16:44 | |
| [Coke] | JJMerelo: Don't want to get sucked into the twisty path of reimplementing, sorry. | ||
| JJMerelo | [Coke] yeah, I can empatize with that. Or equivelent and right spelling of the word. | 16:45 | |
| s/equivelent/equivalent/ | |||
| [Coke] | butterfly project: url? (don't see flock in the module list) | ||
| if it's lizmat's work, I'd expect that one to be in the modules list. | 16:46 | ||
| sena_kun | m: IO::Path::Parts.say; | ||
| camelia | (Parts) | ||
| JJMerelo | [Coke] modules.raku.org/dist/P5built-ins:...:ELIZABETH Not sure it includes flock, but it might. | 16:47 | |
| [Coke] well... no, it does not. | |||
| [Coke] docs.raku.org/language/5to6-perlfu...-_perlfunc | 16:48 | ||
| [Coke] | yup. | 16:49 | |
| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: e4ecde13d6 | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6 Fix anchor |
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| [Coke] | I dislike that the "most wanted" project wants me to classify what kind of solution I'm looking for. I just want to add "flock", I don't want to have to decide if it's going to be a nativebinding to c functionality or pure Raku | 16:50 | |
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| sena_kun | It is bitrotted anyway AFAIK. | 16:50 | |
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| [Coke] | sena_kun: github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted ? there was at least one other repo that said *it* was bitrotted and pointed here. | 16:51 | |
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| sena_kun | Yup. Well... | 16:52 | |
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| Geth | doc/document-is-impl-trait: fd355e7c1f | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6 Fix copy-pasted anchor |
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| doc: 41181cabea | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files Document is impl trait (#3490) * Document is-implementation-detail trait * Document Code.is-implementation-detail method * Extend explanation ... (10 more lines) |
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| linkable6 | DOC#3490 [closed]: github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3490 Document is impl trait | ||
| JJMerelo | Altai-man_ ++ | 17:06 | |
| Altai-man_ | JJMerelo, thanks for your tireless efforts. | ||
| JJMerelo | :-) No problem, my pleasure. Will recompile and deploy right now | 17:07 | |
| Altai-man_ | releasable6, status | 17:09 | |
| releasable6 | Altai-man_, Next release in ≈1 hour. There are no known blockers. 186 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings) | ||
| Altai-man_, Details: gist.github.com/c8fa08c2ea72d31520...7f13c8100e | |||
| Altai-man_ | sigh | ||
| JJMerelo | Altai-man_ but no blockers! | ||
| Altai-man_ need any help there? | 17:10 | ||
| Altai-man_ | True enough. I am still bothered we sacrificed a bit of backward compatibility. | 17:11 | |
| JJMerelo | Just the tiniest bit | ||
| Altai-man_ | JJMerelo, not with the release. I will need you guidance on docs later, I guess, because I have some long term plans related, but it is too early to tell about it. | 17:12 | |
| s/tell/talk/ | |||
| JJMerelo | Altai-man_ at your service. If you give me a sneak peek before my talk on the documentation next Friday, I'd appreciate that. | 17:13 | |
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| lizmat | [Coke] JJMerelo in light of events in the past year, *I* am not going to do any work on making it easier for Perl code to be ported to Raku | 17:29 | |
| but I will support anyone willing to put the effort into it | |||
| JJMerelo | lizmat makes sense | ||
| lizmat | I may still "port" CPAN modules to Raku, but I won't be attempting to mimic the same interface | 17:30 | |
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| JJMerelo | lizmat I used them for porting File::Chown to this github.com/JJ/raku-sys-chown | 17:43 | |
| ... which I just realized I didn't push... | |||
| lizmat | seems the README.md needs some work? | ||
| JJMerelo | That too... | 17:44 | |
| I didn't release it, apparently. | |||
| Thought I had... | |||
| Geth | ecosystem/JJ-patch-14: 033b57bceb | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Adds Sys::Chown |
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| ecosystem: JJ++ created pull request #508: Adds Sys::Chown |
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| Altai-man_ | releasable6, status | 17:55 | |
| releasable6 | Altai-man_, Next release in ≈1 hour. There are no known blockers. 245 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings) | ||
| Altai-man_, Details: gist.github.com/8bd7436ac278273e30...8f95e5c0bf | |||
| Geth | ecosystem: 033b57bceb | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Adds Sys::Chown |
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| ecosystem: ad504c8e15 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Merge pull request #508 from Raku/JJ-patch-14 Adds Sys::Chown I guess it's OK except for binary deps. |
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| JJMerelo | Almost there, Altai-man_ !! | ||
| Altai-man_ | Not even close, the fun is yet to start. :P | 18:02 | |
| JJMerelo | As long as it's -Ofun ... | 18:03 | |
| JJMerelo going afk until tomorrow. It's been an intense afternoon... | 18:05 | ||
| Altai-man_ | o7 | ||
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| Altai-man_ | releasable6, status | 18:27 | |
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| rir | I was just looking on Raku.org regarding subsets. That got me to this question: What is `::`? I could not find a definition. | 18:46 | |
| lizmat | that depends on the context | 18:49 | |
| like Perl, it's the package separator: Foo::Bar | |||
| perhaps docs.raku.org/language/packages contains the info you're looking for ? | 18:50 | ||
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| leont | You mean like «subset :: of Str where 1»? | 19:06 | |
| rir | leont, yes. I was trying to use a <<subset Positive of Int where * > -1>> to define a PosInt class. When a constraint is added, a class that knows its name seems correct. | 19:19 | |
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| guifa | is there a major performance hit for using name aliases in signatures or is most of that handled by the compiler? | 19:23 | |
| [Coke] | for nativecall, do we have an easy way to get at constants set in C? | 19:24 | |
| ISTR this requires reading the C source and cut and paste at the low-tech end (and a script to do it for you elsewhere) | |||
| ah, man page works, for this one at least. | 19:26 | ||
| MasterDuke | guifa: i believe there's some performance hit, but i don't think it's too big | ||
| guifa | okay. Mainly I’m wondering about the issue of having verbose vs compact options | 19:27 | |
| e.g. | |||
| format-number :length<long> but also allowing :len<long> | |||
| guifa wishes he could also do :l but…. language and length both start with L haha boo English | 19:28 | ||
| also MasterDuke: if you’re around next week think you could look over my slides for me for my talk? There’s one in particularl that I’m hoping will make you laugh out loud a bit :-) | |||
| MasterDuke | sure | 19:29 | |
| Geth | doc: ea98b81ac2 | Coke++ | lib/Pod/Cache.pm6 Add exclusive locking |
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| doc: 470ed9c06f | Coke++ | util/update-and-test Pod::Cache should be safe now |
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| [Coke] | ^^ so that worked on mac fine. | 19:43 | |
| lizmat | guifa: I think :foo(:bar) is pretty much optimized, but anything beyond that is icky | 19:57 | |
| guifa | lizmat++ | 19:58 | |
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| guifa | I can’t wait to be able to use RakuAST though. For my string formatters it’ll probably speed things up immensely and not require any risky EVALs to do so | 20:00 | |
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