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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log inspection is getting closer to beta. If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 25 August 2021. |
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| tonyo | tbrowder: should have the oauth cro app part of the tut up tomorrow, still working through some flows and learning a little bit of cro | 06:23 | |
| El_Che | tonyo: are you adding oauth2/oidc support to cro? If so: hero | 06:57 | |
| tonyo | yea | ||
| El_Che | hero then | ||
| tonyo | well, i'm not writing a module for it but i'm making a tut | ||
| that could easily be a module (i guess) | |||
| El_Che | idd | 06:58 | |
| I have some experience with the server side | |||
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| Geth | ecosystem: 652aee61f3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Remove JSON::JWT It now lives in the zef ecosystem |
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| ecosystem: f00c254b14 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Freeze DateTime::Format While we move it to the zef ecosystem |
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| Geth | ecosystem: 4c8f712ade | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Freeze App::Nopaste While we're moving it to the zef ecosystem |
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| Anton Antonov | @lizmat Thank you for your quick response on my Acme::Text::UpsideDown bug report. Gathering corresponding symbol pairs is not that easy… | 12:34 | |
| To me at least … | |||
| lizmat | Yeah... it's pretty messy...perhaps the "uw" script installed by uniname-words can help ? | 12:37 | |
| glad to have someone else do that :-) | 12:38 | ||
| Anton Antonov | @lizmat Yes, I did look at uniname-words few weeks/months ago -- vert useful. | 13:02 | |
| Precisely for the upside-down mappings being messy. | 13:03 | ||
| *"very useful", not "vert useful"... | |||
| lizmat | :-) | ||
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| Geth | ecosystem: 734e351eb1 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Freeze Pastebin::Shadowcat While we move it to the zef ecosystem |
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| p6steve | help | 17:40 | |
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| p6steve | hi - I recall a comment some time back that someone needs to adopt Inline::Python ... is it being actively maintained? | 17:45 | |
| Voldenet | nope | 17:47 | |
| I've tried using it and it just had to copy whole thing and install local version | 17:48 | ||
| with some modifications, like explicit construction/destruction | |||
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| p6steve | yes - i have been successful - needs exclude="python3" otherwise ok on 2021.05 | 17:52 | |
| had to go --force-test on 2022.02 | |||
| (so my workaround has been use 2021.15 or --force-test) | 17:54 | ||
| now I am hitting some "real" issues... | |||
| (ie. real for my project to connect to Python Pandas) | 17:55 | ||
| I am tempted to roll up my sleeves and try and fix myself ... is there any design doc (or "how it works" blogs) out there? | 17:57 | ||
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| lizmat | p6steve: no, but I'm pretty sure nine will be helping you if you take this on! | 18:02 | |
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| p6steve | @lizmat - I have been tempted to put in for a TPF development grant for a couple of things ... but noted the prerequisite to be a core raku contributor ... would adoption of Inline::Python qualify? | 18:07 | |
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| lizmat | where is that prerequisite mentioned? | 18:08 | |
| but yeah, I'd think that an application by you would qualify | |||
| although I can't really say, as I'n not on the Grant Committee anymore | |||
| p6steve | news.perlfoundation.org/post/call_...s_jan_2022 | 18:09 | |
| The applicant must be a contributor to the Raku language specification or one of its implementations. | |||
| The application must be endorsed by one or more people in Raku Steering Council. | |||
| .or | |||
| lizmat | a. having several prominent Raku modules out there *and* blogging about it, makes you a contributor (whether you like that or not :-) | 18:11 | |
| b. You are hereby endorsed by me | |||
| Voldenet | I don't know how helpful it will be, but Inline::Python is mostly pyhelper.c and thin wrapper over it, the whole thing is under 1k LOC | 18:12 | |
| p6steve | anyway - either way I need to work out if I have the skills as I get closer to the metal ... so I will dig in and try and fix (probably needing some help) and PR back if I get on OK | ||
| codesections | "You are hereby endorsed by me" me to! (though feel free to email [email@hidden.address] if you want something other than an IRC log :) ) | ||
| "You are hereby endorsed by me" me to! (though feel free to email rsc@raku.org if you want something other than an IRC log :) ) | |||
| p6steve | only then will I be able to judge the sensibleness of adoption | 18:13 | |
| codesections | also, I agree that "core contributor" is/should be very broad there, and would cover you | ||
| p6steve | oh - excellent - thanks! | ||
| both | |||
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| tonyo | i should write a grant for doing a module test grid/harness for different oses+rakudo versions | 18:38 | |
| p6steve | raku -v | 18:41 | |
| nine | p6steve: in short, Inline::Python hasn't seen development in probably 5 years, except for a few hours to port it to Python 3. | 18:42 | |
| p6steve: what it needs is someone looking at Inline::Perl5 and porting that to Inline::Python. Most importantly the way it creates wrapper classes for Perl packages which are a huge part of making integration seamless and for giving decent performance. | 18:44 | ||
| p6steve | @nine yes, I remember seeing that comment too in the past | ||
| nine | Inline::Perl5 probably looks quite large in comparison, but that's because for performance reasons there's a lot of duplicated code (e.g. a generic way to call methods and then special ways for methods with 0, 1 and 2 arguments) | ||
| p6steve | hmmm - 8.8k vs. 2.1k ;-) | 18:48 | |
| (using githib gloc to count total lines) | 18:49 | ||
| @nine - I think the best start anyway is for me to fix my problem and PR it on the current base since i would need to learn how the current one works before i woul dbe able to consider a porting effort | 18:51 | ||
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| guifa has held off on applying for grants for the same reason | 22:52 | ||
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