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| Geth | advent: 058592005d | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2019/schedule Swapping articles Please @nige123 tell me *now* if you can make it for the 21st or I really will have to look for alternatives. |
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| Geth | advent: 17987aa35f | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2019/schedule Swapping articles @arnesom's moved back to the 23th, @tbrowder's moved up to tomorrow. |
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| jmerelo | It's again that time of the year when no one's have their advent calendar article ready for publication when it should. | 08:31 | |
| So if you said you were going to publish an article and have a slot assigned, please have it ready *now* since I'm starting pushing up a few days articles that were scheduled for later | 08:32 | ||
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| jmerelo | And if you don't have a slot assigned, just request one and write the article ASAP. I'll schedule it when I have nothing else to work with, or by the end of the season. | 08:33 | |
| Here's the new and improved schedule: github.com/Raku/advent/blob/master...9/schedule Please add yourself at the end, but not before your article is ready. | 08:34 | ||
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| jmerelo | Hi, n1ge | 08:43 | |
| n1ge | hi jmerelo - I'm on track to submit an entry by the end of the day | 08:44 | |
| jmerelo | n1ge: I'll publish it tomorrow, then | ||
| n1ge | sorry if there is some confusion here | ||
| ok cool | |||
| jmerelo | But please submit it today anyway | ||
| n1ge | I was just going to put into wordpress and schedule to release it | 08:45 | |
| is there a different process than previous years? | |||
| jmerelo | n1ge: the difference is that I would like to have had the article a few days in advance | ||
| n1ge: to review them, and just to know that they are ready | |||
| n1ge | oic ok | ||
| yes - that's a good idea - sorry I didn't realise | 08:46 | ||
| jmerelo | n1ge: but by all means post it now, and I can reschedule stuff, no problem. | ||
| I'll try to have a look at it as soon as you post it | |||
| n1ge | ok cool - will submit it later tonight - you can decide when it's best to publish | 08:48 | |
| jmerelo | n1ge: thanks | ||
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| lizmat | Files=1292, Tests=109640, 209 wallclock secs (28.28 usr 8.23 sys + 2957.07 cusr 267.89 csys = 3261.47 CPU) | 09:58 | |
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| chloekek | Surprised you can’t use whenever in postfix form: react { f() whenever $x; } | 10:42 | |
| jmerelo | chloekek: but then how would you add another whenever? | 10:50 | |
| chloekek | react { f() whenever $x; g() whenever $y; } | 10:54 | |
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| Geth | doc: a319e660c2 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Language/control.pod6 Remove extraneous # |
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| jmerelo | chloekek um. Right. | 11:33 | |
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| chloekek | p6: my $xs := [1, 2, 3]; push $xs, 4; say $xs; | 11:50 | |
| camelia | [1 2 3 4] | ||
| chloekek | I wonder if it would be easier to use Raku with just the $ and & sigils, and := wherever possible. | 11:51 | |
| Esp. with immutable lists and maps. | 11:52 | ||
| @ and % don’t seem all that useful without the Perl 5-like list behavior, other than the special behavior when initializing them (e.g. my @xs = 1, 2, 3) copies the list into a new array. | 11:53 | ||
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| chloekek | $ is useful because it’s universal, and & is useful because you can do a call by omitting the sigil, but @ and % don’t seem to have anything special to them other than the non-:= initialization behavior. | 11:56 | |
| mscha | m: my %h{Complex} = 0+0i => 'foo'; say %h{0+0i}; say %h{0-0i}; say 0+0i == 0-0i; | ||
| camelia | foo (Any) True |
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| chloekek | p6: my $xs := (1, 2, 3); my @ys = $xs; say @ys.perl; | 11:59 | |
| camelia | [1, 2, 3] | ||
| chloekek | p6: my $xs := (1, 2, 3); my @ys = $xs,; say @ys.perl; | 12:00 | |
| camelia | [(1, 2, 3),] | ||
| mscha | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3354 | 12:03 | |
| jmerelo | chloekek: visibility, maybe? | 12:05 | |
| tobs | I agree insofar as Array and Hash in Raku behave like references already if you come from a Perl point of view (no flattening), but the explicit sigil still helps me discern singular from plural in a variable name. | 12:06 | |
| chloekek | You mean that you can immediately see that it’s positional or associative? | ||
| That’s true. | |||
| jmerelo | chloekek: that's what they mean for me, at least. | ||
| Admitted this is maybe something that is meaningful only for people heavily invested in Perl before | 12:07 | ||
| chloekek | If it’s about “plurality” one might argue this is not intuitive: | 12:08 | |
| tobs | but I see your point, as referring to an Array through a scalar container is most often(?) not different from a positional container. | ||
| chloekek | p6: my @a := set(1, 2, 3) | ||
| camelia | Type check failed in binding; expected Positional but got Set (Set.new(3,2,1)) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| chloekek | So it being positional per se is quite significant. | ||
| Otoh: | |||
| p6: my %a := set(1, 2, 3) | 12:09 | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| tobs | ^ was about to write that :) | ||
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| tbrowder | jmerelo: i noted advent fo me on 17 but you said "tomorrow". confirm, please | 12:23 | |
| tellable6 | 2019-12-14T07:39:55Z #raku <jmerelo> tbrowder thanks too! | ||
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| jmerelo | tbrowder: tomorrow-ish | 12:26 | |
| It's tomorrow after midnight for me | |||
| Still, n1ge showed up today, so I might still push it back another day | 12:27 | ||
| tbrowder | ah, so 2019-12-17T0001 UTC? | 12:28 | |
| jmerelo | tbrowder: for the time being, yes. | 12:30 | |
| tbrowder | ok, got it | ||
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| n1ge | here is a draft version of my advent entry: wordpress.com/post/rakuadventcalen...ss.com/312 | 12:50 | |
| comments/feedback/suggestions welcome | |||
| jmerelo | n1ge: please add some links to documentation, for instance in TWEAK | 12:52 | |
| IO::Path, $*HOME... | |||
| n1ge: add also some categories like Modules or Applications | 12:53 | ||
| And schedule it for 2019-12-16T0001 UTC | 12:54 | ||
| I'll push back the other two scheduled articles one day. | |||
| and thanks, n1ge | |||
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| n1ge | ok will do | 12:58 | |
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| chloekek | p6: sub f {}; say f.WHAT.HOW.perl | 13:27 | |
| camelia | Perl6::Metamodel::ClassHOW.new | ||
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| chloekek | p6: class C {}; my $x := C.new; $x.BUILD(42) | 13:35 | |
| camelia | No such method 'BUILD' for invocant of type 'C' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| chloekek | p6: Sub.new | 13:39 | |
| camelia | Cannot make a Sub object using .new in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| tbrowder | n1ge: sweet! | 14:11 | |
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| Geth | doc: 52f11dee3c | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Language/control.pod6 kill the suspense, give the example's output |
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| jmerelo | .seen n1ge | 16:04 | |
| tellable6 | jmerelo, I saw n1ge 2019-12-15T12:58:13Z in #raku: <n1ge> ok will do | ||
| jmerelo | .tell n1ge I'm going to schedule your article for tonight, if you don't mind; right not it's just a draft. If you want to change something, do so in the next 8 hours or so | 16:05 | |
| tellable6 | jmerelo, I'll pass your message to n1ge | ||
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| pilne | so, how much trouble am I biting off if i want to try and do the whole "develop in a working process(vm)?" thing like common lisp does with raku? :D | 20:31 | |
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